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Top 5 SEC schools by prestige factor?

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cocky comical address
  11/30/25
Are we talking academic prestige? If so, then Vanderbilt ...
Hateful Regret
  11/30/25
private schools dont have any prestige anymore unless youre ...
aggressive reading party
  11/30/25
what about sports?
cocky comical address
  11/30/25
Vandy UT/FL UGA TAMU
Cracking Jewess
  11/30/25
UT as in Texas or Tenn? Tenn is sps outside of engineering
cocky comical address
  11/30/25
Tx
Cracking Jewess
  11/30/25
Very weird UGA trolling.
Hateful Regret
  11/30/25
Cr. It is a tier below Bama.
provocative temple
  12/01/25
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Indecent doobsian plaza psychic
  12/01/25
UGA is ranked top 50 in us news, Alabama top 200.
Cracking Jewess
  12/01/25
not true
Contagious ultramarine knife
  12/02/25
I would put Texas slightly above Florida but you are right t...
Massive scarlet step-uncle's house
  12/01/25
TX grad programs are much more TTT other than Law which is b...
cocky comical address
  12/01/25
TX is better for law and MBA, both pseudo-elite T15-18 progr...
Cracking Jewess
  12/01/25
For regular MBA maybe, UF International MBA is #1 iirc UT...
cocky comical address
  12/01/25
Do you have some legit TTTT pedigree? What on earth is an in...
chestnut macaca sweet tailpipe
  12/01/25
The graduate programs at the University of Florida (UF) in G...
cocky comical address
  12/02/25
Indeed the sun never sets on the Gator Nation
sick point
  12/03/25
Which Texas grad programs are more TTT? https://www.usnews....
chestnut macaca sweet tailpipe
  12/01/25
yeah this is wild flame, florida is TTT.
Primrose passionate circlehead
  12/01/25
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cocky comical address
  12/01/25
in you're in some random business role at a f500 i think you...
Supple lodge people who are hurt
  11/30/25
hasn't bama become lowkey prestigious for giving out free tu...
Ruddy base
  12/01/25
We do Tier lists here now fyi
maize station
  12/01/25
Vanderbilt and that's it, there's absolutely nothing "p...
cyan wonderful skinny woman
  12/01/25
Vanderbilt is kids that couldn’t get into Duke or Emor...
cocky comical address
  12/01/25
not arguing against that, but Vanderbilt has some prestige c...
cyan wonderful skinny woman
  12/01/25
it really doesn't lol
Translucent Soul-stirring Azn
  12/01/25
Fucking EGREGIOUS Emory trolling and I may have gone there. ...
provocative temple
  12/01/25
Emory is where the Jews that got into Vandy for shits and gi...
cocky comical address
  12/01/25
don't think cutler is jewish
boyish school kitty cat
  12/03/25
exactly
cocky comical address
  12/03/25
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sick point
  12/03/25
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cocky comical address
  12/03/25
I never understood this. Vandy is in nashville and has sec f...
Bronze sanctuary
  12/02/25
Because prestige is priceless. Nobody would have even asked ...
Hateful Regret
  12/02/25
Vanderbilt isn't prestigious
Translucent Soul-stirring Azn
  12/01/25
Damn, this thread was smelling a lot like dry-rub barbeque u...
federal garrison
  12/01/25
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cocky comical address
  12/01/25
no sec school has an acceptance rate in the teens. there's ...
Concupiscible obsidian legal warrant stage
  12/01/25
I think there's probably something wrong with that stat. ...
federal garrison
  12/01/25
A few years ago I got accepted at Ole Miss by mistake when I...
maize station
  12/01/25
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provocative temple
  12/01/25
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Beady-eyed adulterous lay party of the first part
  12/01/25
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Hateful Regret
  12/02/25
what do acceptance rates even mean at a place like UT where ...
Primrose passionate circlehead
  12/02/25
In high school, I was a National Merit Scholarship winner. ...
amber big library
  12/02/25
Bama wanted to pay you to be chill and fratty but you said N...
Cracking Jewess
  12/02/25
are you happy with your experience at HUG? did you have you...
Supple lodge people who are hurt
  12/02/25
I had an amazing, truly life transforming experience at HUG....
amber big library
  12/03/25
Did you reinvent yourself as a bad boy being surrounded by n...
Cracking Jewess
  12/03/25
my cousin did this at HUG. Literally beat the shit out of a ...
Contagious ultramarine knife
  12/03/25
180
Hateful Regret
  12/03/25
...
Cracking Jewess
  12/03/25
what's he doing now?
boyish school kitty cat
  12/03/25
Sort of, yes.
amber big library
  12/03/25


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Date: November 30th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: cocky comical address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49472963)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:42 PM
Author: Hateful Regret

Are we talking academic prestige? If so, then

Vanderbilt

Florida

Texas

Texas A&M

Mizzou

Mizzou is debatable, but I believe the above are only five AAU schools in the SEC, so that's probably the obvious answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473226)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: aggressive reading party

private schools dont have any prestige anymore unless youre top 1% in terms of parental net worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473235)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: cocky comical address

what about sports?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473237)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: Cracking Jewess

Vandy

UT/FL

UGA

TAMU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473242)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: cocky comical address

UT as in Texas or Tenn? Tenn is sps outside of engineering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473245)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Cracking Jewess

Tx

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473246)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:36 PM
Author: Hateful Regret

Very weird UGA trolling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473435)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:14 AM
Author: provocative temple

Cr. It is a tier below Bama.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473482)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:31 AM
Author: Indecent doobsian plaza psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473595)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:51 AM
Author: Cracking Jewess

UGA is ranked top 50 in us news, Alabama top 200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473683)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Contagious ultramarine knife

not true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49477112)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:33 AM
Author: Massive scarlet step-uncle's house

I would put Texas slightly above Florida but you are right that they are the same tier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473717)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: cocky comical address

TX grad programs are much more TTT other than Law which is basically same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474452)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: Cracking Jewess

TX is better for law and MBA, both pseudo-elite T15-18 programs with some national reach

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474529)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: cocky comical address

For regular MBA maybe, UF International MBA is #1 iirc

UTTT health sciences isn’t even best in their state compared to Houston Baylor etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474773)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: chestnut macaca sweet tailpipe

Do you have some legit TTTT pedigree? What on earth is an international MBA? Can't tell if you're trolling at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474786)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: cocky comical address

The graduate programs at the University of Florida (UF) in Gainesville and the University of Texas at Austin (UT Austin) are both highly regarded, but they tend to have different areas of standout strength in national rankings.

Overall, UT Austin often has a slight edge in having more top-10 ranked graduate programs across a wider range of disciplines, particularly in engineering, business, and select science and social science specialties. UF, however, excels in other specific professional and scientific fields. 

🏛️ Top Graduate Program Strengths (Based on U.S. News Rankings)

University of Texas at Austin (UT Austin)

UT Austin is generally recognized for its strength in Engineering, Business, and Computer Science. Many of its individual graduate programs and specialties consistently rank in the top 10 nationally. 

• Engineering: The Cockrell School of Engineering is consistently ranked in the top 10 nationally (e.g., Civil Engineering, Environmental Engineering, and notably Petroleum Engineering at No. 1).

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• Business: The McCombs School of Business has multiple top-10 specialties, including Accounting at No. 1 and top rankings in Information Systems and Management. 

• Information/Geosciences: The School of Information and Jackson School of Geosciences are also often ranked in the top 10. 

• Other Top 10 Specialties: Includes programs in Education, Social Work, and several disciplines within the Natural Sciences (like Applied Math and certain Computer Science specialties). 

University of Florida (UF) - Gainesville

UF's graduate strength is often found in the Health Sciences, Agriculture/Biological Sciences, and specialized Law and Education programs. 

• Health & Professional Fields: UF often features top-ranked programs in areas like Veterinary Medicine (Top 5) and specialties in Rehabilitation (e.g., Occupational and Physical Therapy). 

• Engineering & Agriculture: It has top-ranked programs in specialized engineering fields like Biological/Agricultural Engineering (Top 5). 

• Education & Law: UF has seen significant gains in its College of Education (reaching the top 10) and has top-ranked specialties in Tax Law (No. 2) and Student Counseling and Personnel Services (No. 1). 

• Other Noted Areas: UF generally excels in Agriculture, Health Sciences, Biology, and Environmental Sciences.

⚖️ Key Program Comparisons (Examples)

The "better" school depends heavily on your specific field of study.

• If your primary interest is in Engineering, Business (especially Accounting/Finance), Computer Science, or Geosciences, UT Austin is generally the higher-ranked and more established choice. 

• If your primary interest is in Veterinary Medicine, certain Health Professions, Agriculture/Biological Engineering, or highly-ranked specialized Education/Law programs, UF is a powerhouse and may offer the superior program.

the University of Florida (UF) generally has stronger, more established rankings in many Health and Rehabilitation graduate fields compared to the specific programs at the University of Texas at Austin (UT Austin).

While UT Austin is a powerhouse in many STEM fields, the UF Health system has historically driven a higher national profile for professional and allied health degrees.

Here is a detailed breakdown of how the graduate programs in medical/health-related fields generally rank against each other:

⚕️ Medical and Health Graduate Program Comparison

Key Takeaways: UF's Edge in Professional Health

🥇 Programs Where UF Takes a Strong Lead

The University of Florida's strength in the health sciences is clear across several key professional programs:

• Pharmacy (PharmD/PhD): UF's College of Pharmacy is a perennial top-5 program, significantly outranking UT Austin's well-regarded but lower-ranked college.

• Veterinary Medicine: UF has a top-5 program in Veterinary Medicine, which UT Austin does not offer.

• Rehabilitation Sciences (OT/PT): UF's programs in Physical Therapy and Occupational Therapy are highly respected and consistently place in the top 20 nationally. UT Austin does not have programs that achieve this level of national recognition in these specific fields.

• Medical School (MD/PhD): The UF College of Medicine ranks higher in research than the newer Dell Medical School at UT Austin.

🥈 Programs Where UT Austin Excels

UT Austin is stronger in two important graduate fields related to health:

• Public Health: UT Austin's School of Public Health typically ranks higher than UF's program.

• Nursing (Master's/DNP): UT Austin's nursing programs are generally ranked higher than UF's.

🎓 The Key Difference

The main differentiator is institutional focus. UF has long been known for its comprehensive, highly-ranked Health Science Center (encompassing Medicine, Pharmacy, Nursing, Dentistry, and Veterinary Medicine), which elevates its professional and allied health graduate rankings.

UT Austin's focus has been on its globally dominant Engineering and Computer Science programs, and its Dell Medical School is relatively new, which can limit its historical ranking profile in comparison to established institutions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49476319)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: sick point

Indeed the sun never sets on the Gator Nation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480255)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: chestnut macaca sweet tailpipe

Which Texas grad programs are more TTT?

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/the-university-of-texas-at-austin-228778/overall-rankings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474755)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Primrose passionate circlehead

yeah this is wild flame, florida is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475271)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: cocky comical address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475359)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: Supple lodge people who are hurt

in you're in some random business role at a f500 i think you do fine with literally any of them. it's just about being chill, fratty, and able to do sales

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49473442)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Ruddy base

hasn't bama become lowkey prestigious for giving out free tuition to national merit kids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474561)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: maize station

We do Tier lists here now fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474760)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: cyan wonderful skinny woman

Vanderbilt and that's it, there's absolutely nothing "prestigious" about the rest of the schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474768)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: cocky comical address

Vanderbilt is kids that couldn’t get into Duke or Emory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474777)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: cyan wonderful skinny woman

not arguing against that, but Vanderbilt has some prestige compared to the rest of the SEC schools which have none

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474799)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Translucent Soul-stirring Azn

it really doesn't lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474801)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: provocative temple

Fucking EGREGIOUS Emory trolling and I may have gone there. There is not one person at Emory who got into Vanderbilt. The CLEAR preftige ranking is Duke >> Vandy >>>>>>>>>> Emory > Wake

W&L too weird to be on the list. Hopkins and Rice aren’t really Southern. No one really wants to go to Davidson. Richmond is essentially Tulane in a worse city. There has never been anyone who can say with a straight face that they went to Miami for prestige or academics or anything other than fuckin’.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475207)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: cocky comical address

Emory is where the Jews that got into Vandy for shits and giggles go

Jay Cutler is only Jew to go to vandy in schools history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475357)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: boyish school kitty cat

don't think cutler is jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49479590)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: cocky comical address

exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480263)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: sick point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480261)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: cocky comical address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480264)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: Bronze sanctuary

I never understood this. Vandy is in nashville and has sec football. duke is in fucking durham. Wouldnt vandy be a better place to spend 4 of your best years?

and ljfl at emory. 99% of high school students dont even know what it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49477093)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:56 PM
Author: Hateful Regret

Because prestige is priceless. Nobody would have even asked this question in xoxo's heyday.

Also, Vandy historically has been SPS at sports up until the past few years, whereas Duke has an elite basketball program. And Durham has gentrified like crazy over the last 10-15 years. It's actually pretty bougie nowadays. (Although I will grant you that Nashville is still better.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49478451)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: Translucent Soul-stirring Azn

Vanderbilt isn't prestigious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474796)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: federal garrison

Damn, this thread was smelling a lot like dry-rub barbeque until i got to this poast. Now it's like even my clothes smell like fish sauce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474820)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: cocky comical address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475352)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: Concupiscible obsidian legal warrant stage

no sec school has an acceptance rate in the teens. there's vandy at 6%, UF and UT in the 20s, and acceptance rates go up from there all the way to 97% at ole miss. can that last stat be right?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/sec-schools-ranked-academically-u-170356697.html?guccounter=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474797)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:25 PM
Author: federal garrison

I think there's probably something wrong with that stat.

Bear in mind that when a university *genuinely* does not give a fuck about a given stat, both front-end management of the stat and back-end reporting can suffer. It'd be like if you asked me what percent of my civil contingency cases yielded *some* money; that's such a dumb metric that I'd spit you out something like 99%, or maybe 50%; who knows or cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49474833)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:32 PM
Author: maize station

A few years ago I got accepted at Ole Miss by mistake when I answered a robocall & pressed the wrong button. Transferred out of there after 2 years because it wasn't a cultural fit for a mid 30s guy with a bachelor's already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475059)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: provocative temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475211)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Beady-eyed adulterous lay party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49475273)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 12:51 AM
Author: Hateful Regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49476303)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Primrose passionate circlehead

what do acceptance rates even mean at a place like UT where it's autoadmit based on your hs rank? outside of those dedicated spots it's almost fucking impossible. there are countless stories of kids from good high schools getting dinged and winding up at much higher ranked unis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49477118)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 7:06 AM
Author: amber big library

In high school, I was a National Merit Scholarship winner. From the fall of my junior year on, I was deluged with mail from Alabama. They basically offered me acceptance and a full ride automatically. In my senior year, these offers seemed to arrive every few weeks. I had never acknowledged Alabama in any way. Never visited, never called, never even pulled up their website on a computer.

I got in early at HUG and never looked back. But sometimes I think, it would have been cool at least to make a visit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49476538)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:01 AM
Author: Cracking Jewess

Bama wanted to pay you to be chill and fratty but you said NO!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49476590)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: Supple lodge people who are hurt

are you happy with your experience at HUG? did you have your head in the game as far as networking at that age?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49476727)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 6:52 AM
Author: amber big library

I had an amazing, truly life transforming experience at HUG. I had grown up as a very academically oriented kid, but I got there and so had almost everyone else. So I had to reinvent myself and grow in ways that I had never attempted or even fully considered. I was blessed.

And yes, I was all about networking from a young age. But networking only takes you so far. You have to have some actual substance to offer, or else you don't really have anything to network.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49479271)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Cracking Jewess

Did you reinvent yourself as a bad boy being surrounded by nerds at HUG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49479575)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Contagious ultramarine knife

my cousin did this at HUG. Literally beat the shit out of a Kennedy and multiple children of billionaires after being a bookish nerd in HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480236)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Hateful Regret

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480240)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Cracking Jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480243)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: boyish school kitty cat

what's he doing now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49480523)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: amber big library

Sort of, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804512&forum_id=2)#49481764)