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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:18 PM Author: Lime mad cow disease psychic Nigga WTF do you know about this? Why are you so fucking obsessed with whites? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49995563) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: aggressive abode Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Apoplectic puppy Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: aggressive abode (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Apoplectic puppy They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: aggressive abode read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Erotic Base Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: self-absorbed range what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Misanthropic Alpha cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Vigorous Kitty Cat Masturbator I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: beady-eyed trailer park really tough guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Twisted Henna Dilemma Laser Beams i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Cerise shrine lettuce Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle ape really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Jet indecent temple It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Swashbuckling keepsake machete it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Jet indecent temple Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle ape actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Self-centered idea he suggested institution 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Self-centered idea he suggested institution "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49838410) |