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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
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exciting useless brakes idea he suggested
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
much more than that
rambunctious duck-like people who are hurt windowlicker
  11/09/25
anal rape?
soul-stirring bossy crackhouse mexican
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
stirring seedy spot
  11/09/25
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Painfully Honest Stag Film
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
exciting useless brakes idea he suggested
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
coiffed geriatric antidepressant drug
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Lilac brunch electric furnace
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why who is he?
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Wild Razzle-dazzle Trump Supporter
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exciting useless brakes idea he suggested
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Sapphire Internet-worthy Corner Ceo
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cr he blows
chartreuse chapel knife
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Underhanded cruel-hearted faggot firefighter
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Underhanded cruel-hearted faggot firefighter
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Supple Stage Legal Warrant
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Bright Alpha Property
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
alcoholic mediation
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
alcoholic mediation
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Angry Canary Depressive
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Sepia principal's office
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why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
twisted jade indian lodge sandwich
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Know-it-all Haunted Graveyard Tank
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Bright Alpha Property
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Angry Canary Depressive
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
chartreuse chapel knife
  11/09/25
*destroying
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
rambunctious duck-like people who are hurt windowlicker
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
chartreuse chapel knife
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
rambunctious duck-like people who are hurt windowlicker
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
propecia mathematica
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Navy kitty
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Angry Canary Depressive
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
alcoholic mediation
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
alcoholic mediation
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
chartreuse chapel knife
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
twisted jade indian lodge sandwich
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Navy kitty
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Walnut coffee pot
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Walnut coffee pot
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
twisted jade indian lodge sandwich
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/09/25
lol
Walnut coffee pot
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
clear cracking brethren
  11/09/25
...
Angry Canary Depressive
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Bistre Beady-eyed Chad Dilemma
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Bright Alpha Property
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
chartreuse chapel knife
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Know-it-all Haunted Graveyard Tank
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Navy kitty
  11/09/25
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Painfully Honest Stag Film
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lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university
  11/10/25
...
Angry Canary Depressive
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  11/10/25
lol
zoomer sexuality expert
  11/10/25
Lmao
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: exciting useless brakes idea he suggested

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: rambunctious duck-like people who are hurt windowlicker

much more than that

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: soul-stirring bossy crackhouse mexican

anal rape?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: stirring seedy spot

But also some negative consequences

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Stag Film



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: exciting useless brakes idea he suggested

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: coiffed geriatric antidepressant drug

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Lilac brunch electric furnace



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

why who is he?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Wild Razzle-dazzle Trump Supporter

Lol sup ballmer

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: exciting useless brakes idea he suggested



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Sapphire Internet-worthy Corner Ceo



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: chartreuse chapel knife

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Underhanded cruel-hearted faggot firefighter



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Underhanded cruel-hearted faggot firefighter



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Supple Stage Legal Warrant

Cleveland *Indians*

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Bright Alpha Property

indians, cleveland

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: alcoholic mediation

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: alcoholic mediation

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Angry Canary Depressive

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Sepia principal's office

A year? Yeah.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: twisted jade indian lodge sandwich

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Know-it-all Haunted Graveyard Tank

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Bright Alpha Property

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Angry Canary Depressive

import the third world, become the third world

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: chartreuse chapel knife

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

*destroying

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: rambunctious duck-like people who are hurt windowlicker

How do you calculate $5k

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: chartreuse chapel knife

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: rambunctious duck-like people who are hurt windowlicker

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Navy kitty

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Angry Canary Depressive

Jews maf

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: alcoholic mediation

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: alcoholic mediation

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: chartreuse chapel knife

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: twisted jade indian lodge sandwich

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Navy kitty

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Walnut coffee pot

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Walnut coffee pot

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: twisted jade indian lodge sandwich

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Walnut coffee pot

lol

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: clear cracking brethren

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Angry Canary Depressive



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Bistre Beady-eyed Chad Dilemma

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Bright Alpha Property

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: chartreuse chapel knife

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Know-it-all Haunted Graveyard Tank

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Navy kitty

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2).#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Stag Film



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: heady bat-shit-crazy juggernaut university

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Angry Canary Depressive



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: zoomer sexuality expert

lol

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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Lmao

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