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seems like turning point of GoT going to shit was Tywin death

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charismatic fishy chapel
  07/20/25
Tyrion’s character went to shit after that. To be ...
gay hall alpha
  07/20/25
there was another book after. Tywin dies near the end of 4 I...
charismatic fishy chapel
  07/20/25
that was the high point I guess more or less, but of course ...
Opaque Piazza
  07/20/25
i think he wrote himself into dead end tho
Pearl locale knife
  07/20/25
that's the common sentiment but I think it went to shit in t...
charismatic fishy chapel
  07/20/25
if he had wrapped it up with a storm of swords it probably c...
Opaque Piazza
  07/20/25
Name a fantasy work with a good ending
amber confused partner
  07/20/25
lotr
Opaque Piazza
  07/20/25
unless you mean writing quality-wise and then idk
provocative bistre property giraffe
  07/20/25
i thought everyone died in edgar allan poe stories
Pearl locale knife
  07/20/25
yeah I meant writing quality Similar arc with Expedition ...
charismatic fishy chapel
  07/20/25
lol what? Expedition 33 had one of the most satisfying arc ...
carmine station pisswyrm
  07/20/25
SPOILERS
charismatic fishy chapel
  07/20/25
Show was trash from the first frame
Trip crystalline round eye brunch
  07/20/25


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Date: July 20th, 2025 2:44 AM
Author: charismatic fishy chapel



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: gay hall alpha

Tyrion’s character went to shit after that.

To be fair, isn’t that about when the books stopped? I think the show was started with the expectation that lazy GRRM would have the books finished before the later seasons were filmed.

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:02 AM
Author: charismatic fishy chapel

there was another book after. Tywin dies near the end of 4 I believe

I did not get past the first few chapters of the next book



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:08 AM
Author: Opaque Piazza

that was the high point I guess more or less, but of course the actual problem was that the second the books ran out the writers were retards

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Pearl locale knife

i think he wrote himself into dead end tho

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:26 AM
Author: charismatic fishy chapel

that's the common sentiment but I think it went to shit in the books as well. it's sadly more akin to a Young and the Restless soap opera than some grand fantasy series like LotR. we should be ashamed for ever thinking it was profound or worthy of analysis

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:35 AM
Author: Opaque Piazza

if he had wrapped it up with a storm of swords it probably could have been close to that, but yeah he did write himself into a corner with too much shit going on

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Date: July 20th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: amber confused partner

Name a fantasy work with a good ending

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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: Opaque Piazza

lotr

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Date: July 20th, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: provocative bistre property giraffe
Subject: unless you mean writing quality-wise and then idk

It was Robert's death. GRRM loves gothic era horror

Everything that comes after is the result of the result of so many sacred laws being broken so quickly. Most of everyone involved is dead or severely maimed by the end of the show/books (i guess on the latter). Hell itself breaks open on the population of Westeros after the mandate of heaven isn't just "lost" but actively trampled on by a bunch of amoral schemers and plotters---including some within his own court and family--- with no respect for the former king or why he was the way that he was and why it was natural for it to be that way

The only real "good guy" claimants are the Baratheons (sanguine Blood of Kings) and the Starks (enforcers of the sacred laws) and maybe Aegon II and every other major family deigning on the sharp iron porcupine in the capital gets decimated in oft ironic and poetic Poe-esque tales and vignettes of cosmic revenge

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Date: July 20th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: Pearl locale knife

i thought everyone died in edgar allan poe stories

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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: charismatic fishy chapel

yeah I meant writing quality

Similar arc with Expedition 33 where it starts out very strong and then becomes obvious the writers don't have a cogent wrap-up planned and just start throwing plot shit at the wall

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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: carmine station pisswyrm

lol what? Expedition 33 had one of the most satisfying arc and endings of any narrative media.

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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: charismatic fishy chapel
Subject: SPOILERS

if you keep disagreeing with me in every thread we will need to meet up and fight

Act3: The stoic father putting a leash on the ephemeral whims of his female family members is based and CR, but overall the story lost most of its gravitas once u realize it's a big simulation and all of the emotion surrounding the gomage etc was pointless

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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: Trip crystalline round eye brunch

Show was trash from the first frame

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