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What's the evolutionary reason for men liking sex way more than women?
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:02 PM Author: Woah Cr friend! Has science determined this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815584) |
Date: April 13th, 2026 8:04 PM Author: gibberish (?) You mean pussy at all? It's the strongest evidence that evolution is bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815594) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:04 PM Author: Surfeando las estrellas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815596) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 6:18 AM Author: rats pressing the lever It isn't complete bullshit. There are plenty of concepts in evolutionary theory that are tracking real phenomena. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816250) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:07 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the evo bio people posit that sex is fun for men and can be nearly cost-free. for women, sex can be fun but pregnancy is an enormous commitment and can even mean death. so women are supposed to be way pickier than men and presumably that difference translates into the pleasure side of the equation as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815605) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:47 PM Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816007) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:37 AM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) exactly. lots of animals behave this way.
men are incentivized to have sex as frequently and with as many partners as possible. women are incentivized to mate with the most fit male they can. women also likely experience more intense orgasms to promote pair bonding. |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:37 AM Author: Metal Up Your Ass humans seem to be quite good at breeding with unfit retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816658) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:46 AM Author: rats pressing the lever yeah thats why the concept of "fitness" is evolutionary theory is kind of retarded folk science. Lewontin wrote a lot about this. Tons of unfit retards "survive" and "mate", and tons of what you would think would be peak fitness die early before getting a chance to. Defining "fitness" as whatever survives ends up being tautological. a lot of evolutionary theory is extremely low iq, but many of the concepts are reasonable estimations and easy to teach so they survive even as we get "harder" fields with more computational genetics and statistical formalism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816678) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:00 PM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) of course it's tautological, evolitonary fitness refers to the liklihood of passing on your genome. its literally the same thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816700) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:04 PM Author: rats pressing the lever A tautology cannot explain its own instances. "Fit organisms reproduce more" tells you nothing about why this organism reproduced more than that one. For that you need a mechanism and the moment you supply one you've left fitness language behind. Fitness is then either a label you apply after the fact or a placeholder for the real explanation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816706) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) if they survive to sexual maturity they are fit.
you're conflating evolutionary fitness with what you would consider an ideal human.
spics producing clutches of spiclings that survive to produce their own spiclings are fitter than the 140iq power couple doing ivf in their 40s to shit out a single autist. large mammal populations are frequently the highest risk populations, but rodents are everywhere. |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: rats pressing the lever That defense only works by completely evacuating fitness of explanatory content. If fitness just means "whoever reproduced, reproduced more," then you cannot use fitness to explain why anyone reproduced. You've redescribed the outcome in fitness language and called it an explanation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816701) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:09 PM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) idk wym with "explanatory content"
fitness in the context of evolution means the ability to successfully produce offspring that survive to sexual maturity. being smarter, bigger, stronger is only "fitter" if those things lead to a higher chance of reproduction.
people evolved to be smarter in harsher climates because being clever was more likely survive to produce children. but take those "fitter" people and put them somewhere where the bottleneck is outcompeting other men, and they are less fit than dindus. |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: rats pressing the lever Right, that's the point. Fitness is relational and context dependent, which means it can't be a property an organism has, but rather it's more like a retroactive summary of how an organism to environment interaction resolved. The explanation lives in the specific mechanisms--thermoregulation, caloric efficiency, higher cognition, whatever--not in the fitness label those mechanisms happen to earn in that context. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816735) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) that's all true but i still dont understand why you have a problem with it. yes, fitness is the totality of many different qualities. yes, it's context dependent, which is why people and animals vary dramatically based on conditions. i don't see how that makes the word less useful or illogical. what would you use in place of "evolutionary fitness" to describe what we're talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816743) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:08 PM Author: JJC (retired) Sperm is dirt cheap. billions a day, zero cost to spray and pray. women's eggs + 9 months of pregnancy + years of raising the babydood a massive investment. Evolution slapped max horniness on males so we'd bang everything that moves and rack up offspring variance (one Chad floods the gene pool, betas die trying), per Bateman's principle and parental investment theory. Women evolved to be picky hypergamous gatekeepers to avoid getting stuck with shit genes or lone wolf cub-rearing in the wild. That's why dudes think about fucking 24/7, chase variety, and have way higher drive while roasties need Chad + feels. Nature doesn't do equality, faggot.
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:22 PM Author: rats pressing the lever CR. What's funny is that Bateman's original fruitfly experiments came under fire a decade ago, apparently he kind of botched the experiment design but the theoretical logic was so air-tight that it survived poor design and turned out to be even stronger than originally assumed. And Triver's extension is where it really gets teeth because it generalizes the principle away from gamete size specifically to any asymmetry in investment, which means it applies to species with male parental care, sex-role reversed species like seahorses and jacanas, and predicts the direction of reversal correctly every time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815652) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:23 PM Author: Woah Cr friend! Good post until you insulted me for no reason at the end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815655) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:48 PM Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth) doesn't the hypergamous drive just end up with single moms raising kids without a father, thus putting their offspring at risk? or the offspring are now robust enough to handle it given they have chadly genes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816010) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 6:15 AM Author: rats pressing the lever No because the actual biological mechanism is designed to ensure that chads semen fertilizes the egg and melvin doesn't know and raises it as his (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816248) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 7:31 AM Author: cowgod “designed?” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816294) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 7:37 AM Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person This is not correct and fundamental flaw in the theory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816298) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 7:42 AM Author: cowgod Nah it tracks I just don’t like the “design” terminology. Roissy’s teachings touch on this. It becomes more salient in wartime where rapes are rampant.
Losers over emphasize this though bc they don’t see the full picture, they just see themselves not getting laid. Anything in the monogamy era, Women get shamed for being sluts iirc. |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:22 AM Author: rats pressing the lever RE your distaste for the "design" framing: IMHO this more of a terminological reflex than a philosophical objection. "Design" doesn't have to imply a sculptor or telos. This is actually Simon's point in The Sciences of the Artificial that design is what happens when a system selects from possibility space under constraint. TBH though I didn't really mean to write it like that, and I understand the reaction.
Agree with the rest of your point. |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:37 AM Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth) now I'll argue the other side. It's been a long time since humanity was so violent that single mother's child was at risk of instant death. I understand all the stuff about higher risk of sexual abuse, and danger growing up in a single parent household. But many single mothers figure it out. And for this pattern to continue maybe it means that Chadly genes confer an evolutionary advantage that is greater than that of the "nurture" provided by Melvin parenting vs an absence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816440) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:10 PM Author: irl White person i think it's evolutionarily inevitable once giving birth in only one sex evolves
the sex that doesn't give birth is always going to be selected for trying to fuck and impregnate as much as possible |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:15 PM Author: rats pressing the lever Male sexuality sits closer to the "wanting-dominant" architecture. For comparison addicts in late-stage addiction often show maximum wanting, minimum liking. The seeking machinery has been hijacked completely away from the pleasure machinery. The rat presses the lever until it dies not because pressing the lever feels good anymore but because the wanting circuit has been decoupled from the feedback that would normally terminate it. Women could enjoy the actual act more and just not seek it out, where men are more like the rats pressing the lever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815637) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:17 PM Author: Surfeando las estrellas rats pressing the lever tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815639) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:23 AM Author: Judas Jones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816635) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:39 AM Author: zoomer sexuality expert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816660) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:16 PM Author: POPE LEO IS WEAK ON CRIME Is this a serious question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815638) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:24 PM Author: Woah Cr friend! It's been a disaster since online dating was invented now ugly fat hoes think they are models (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815656) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 10:14 PM Author: rats pressing the lever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815868) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 10:17 PM Author: ....,....,.......,.........,....,.,.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49815878) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:51 PM Author: Gavin Newsom Women fucking love sex, they literally have it on the sly with total strangers and just never tell anyone. If the women you date "don't like sex", well, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816016) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:54 PM Author: gringo gaijin goyim 🤯 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816022) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:04 AM Author: rats pressing the lever the women I date don't appear to like sex so far from all of the evidence I have experienced first hand. But I am patiently awaiting update on this. from the corner of the bedroom of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816039) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:09 AM Author: Woah Cr friend! I'm a virgin so far but this is definitely not true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816047) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:10 AM Author: rats pressing the lever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816049) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:16 AM Author: ....,....,.......,.........,....,.,.... https://incels.wiki/images/6/6c/Redpillcomics44.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816057) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 7:35 AM Author: frog and toad How could you not be horny all the time when you are forced to look at and hold a vascular aesthetic af COCK every time you piss? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816296) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: rats pressing the lever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816637) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:28 AM Author: zoomer sexuality expert possibly the most deranged op I have ever seen
you people should be in prison |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:30 AM Author: Hang Kikelensky NOW They just don't like sex with you. Women want sex all the time, just not with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816426) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:32 AM Author: luiskandarnameh (🧐) we don't
we have more of a biological urge to nut, but women get far more out of sex itself than men |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:34 AM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) we still definitely want it more frequently. i agree with what you're saying but its hard to say we like it less when we want it more frequently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816655) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:42 AM Author: irl White person no they don't
if this was true, women would seek out sex more than men. but they don't. the reverse is overwhelmingly true
this reddit meme will never die for whatever reason |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:45 AM Author: zoomer sexuality expert not a 'reddit meme' it is emphatically true & accurate and has been well known since the Greeeks. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Tiresias |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: irl White person it's completely false and part of Respecting Women is recognizing that they get way less out of sex than we do and That's Okay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816682) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: rats pressing the lever there is no way men get more out of it that's absurd. men get more out of masturbation for sure, men can have a quick intense orgasm that is great that women don't really have an analog for. but women having actual sex is something else, its not even fair how much they enjoy it there aren't really any experiences I have seen a man have that seem like they would compare. Like a woman can sit there for hours getting railed, sometimes by multiple men in a row and basically be having intense screaming pleasure the entire time its seriously insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816689) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: irl White person nope
if this was true, women would seek out sex more than men
they don't
they don't enjoy sex as much as us. obviously. how could this possibly be any more obvious from observing actual male and female sexual behavior
why are you guys so desperate to believe this obvious fiction |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:59 AM Author: rats pressing the lever yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816697) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:09 PM Author: Woah Cr friend! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816713) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:52 AM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) anyone that has seen a woman orgasm knows that its a more intense and pleasurable experience than a male orgasm.
the desire or even compulsion to fuck isnt 100% correlated with how pleasurable it is. mens libidos can vary dramatically throughout their lives, but cumming always feels the same, so it's not even true that men's desire to cum is 1:1 with how pleasurable their orgasms are. horny guys will bust into hambeasts and the experience isn't pleasurable at all, but we are compelled to bust into the best fertile puss we can. |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:56 AM Author: rats pressing the lever yeah I agree with this 100%. male orgasms are more like a nicotine addiction, where you get cheap quick easy pleasure and the desire to constantly redo it. where female sexual pleasure is more like heroin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816690) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:57 AM Author: irl White person nope
the male orgasm is obviously more subjectively pleasurable. it's why men seek out sex way more than women do. it's not any more complicated than this. there is no way to lawyer your way out of this blatantly obvious self-evident logical truth
this reddit meme will never ever fucking die. if i had a dollar for every time i witnessed some irl male redditor triumphantly declaring that "the female orgasm is WAY more intense and pleasurable than the male orgasm!" i'd have like 247 dollars |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: rats pressing the lever lol shutup you are just running some lame shtick where you pretend to be a clueless naive millennial white male (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816695) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:05 PM Author: irl White person i do not understand why so many men so desperately want to believe this goofy ass nonsense
like i want to just call you guys "simps" but i think that's uncharitable and i also think that there genuinely is something else going on other than just being simps who prefer to imagine women as they wish they were, rather than how they actually are
it probably has something to do with this category of men really, really wanting to believe that they are capable of giving women the same amount of sexual pleasure that women are capable of giving them. so yeah i guess that really is just simping after all. go figure |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:08 PM Author: rats pressing the lever no because I enjoy watching other men give women large amounts of sexual pleasure too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816711) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:29 PM Author: zoomer sexuality expert this assumes there is only one relevant input (amount the gender enjoys the actual physical moment of orgasm) which leads to one relevant output (sex-seeking behavior). the world is more complex than this
I obviously think the simp framing is absurd on numerous levels but if anything the "simp" take would be to say "oh women are so wonderful and desirable, that's why men enjoy having sex with women so much. whereas men are so awful, which is why women don't enjoy sex"
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:03 PM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) then explain why male libido varies despite the pleasurableness of orgasms being the same? why repeat yourself over three paragraphs and dodge this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816702) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:09 PM Author: irl White person "explain why there is variance in [any trait] at the individual level"
gee whiz i dunno man maybe take a bio 101 course from chat gpt dot com or something
can you explain to me why some men are taller or shorter than other men, but also why men are on average taller than women?
this is why we just slur you with "simp" instead of engaging with you btw |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:13 PM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) you said if women had more pleasure from sex they'd have a higher libido, i.e. you believe that sexual pleasure and libido must be 1:1. however that isn't even true if we just look at men. it's empirically untrue that sexual desire is completely correlated with pleasure, because otherwise libidio would be static so long as a person can achieve orgasm, but it's not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816722) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:20 PM Author: irl White person it *is* true for men. relative sexual desire *is* completely correlated with relative pleasure (reward from brain)
this is true for Everything. not just sex. jews receive a larger relative reward from their brain for getting money, compared to white gentiles. it's why they're relatively way more obsessed with money than we are
all human behavior can be modeled and explained with revealed preferences. denying the truth of revealed preferences is something that dishonest, coping people do who are trying to deceive themselves and/or others |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:27 PM Author: rats pressing the lever This is empirically false. See work on Berridge's dissociation between wanting and liking which is probably the most important result in reward neuroscience for this exact question. Nicotine is the canonical example because it's primarily a "wanting" drug with weak "liking" activation, which is why addicted smokers report low subjective pleasure but extremely high craving. The reward is almost entirely motivational. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816754) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:11 PM Author: Woah Cr friend! They aren't the same imo. A huge powerful load blasted into a female pussy feels way better than a watery cialis load dribbling onto a paper towel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856803&forum_id=2).#49816720) |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: non stop prop op from israel (gunneratttt) by "always feel the same" i mean on average, of course some are better than others. but that usually depends on how often you've cum, how attractive you find your partner, etc.
however, when men are most fertile and have high t they'd rather have a limp dick watery bust into a hambeast than gooning at home and having a better orgasm, which goes to show that the pleasure of the orgasm isn't the only thing matters in terms of libido. |
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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:31 PM Author: you\'re the puppet Simplest one word answer ever: babies.
Jfc xo. |