Why don't more people retire early? 55 and under?
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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: ...,;;...,;;...,..,.,;,.,;;,.,;
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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:23 PM Author: abnormal brilliant stag film scourge upon the earth
retiring young to me doesn't mean ceasing to be a part of society. it means no longer spending my time doing things i don't like in pursuit of the acuisition of money.
there are already a few organizations/projects i'm part of that i could devote all my time to and feel good about it if i didn't care about how much money those efforts produced.
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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:17 AM Author: boyish naked black woman dingle berry
why would you want longevity if it's filled by pressure?
that is some serious cope
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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: yapping patrolman candlestick maker
Retire to do what? I have enough money and tried just doing nothing. It's really boring.
IMO a man needs to be building stuff and growing in order to be healthy and happy.
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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: razzle-dazzle resort
I'll be retiring at 53. Only 6 more months of working. I know I'm in a fortunate position, but I understand why most are unable to retire. If healthcare were more reasonably priced, I think a lot more people would pursue this option.
I am already making retirement plans and goals. Once the kids are out of the house in a couple years, we're going to hike the Camino, and sail around the Caribbean, make a trip to Antarctica (the only continent I haven't been to). Lots of plans on the bucket list. We want to do a lot of travel while we're still young enough and physically capable.
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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: ...,;;...,;;...,..,.,;,.,;;,.,;
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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:40 PM Author: razzle bearded reading party roast beef
My sample size is small but I have not ever seen this work out well.
TBH I think that people with the drive to amass enough money to retire early are precisely the sorts of people that should continue working later.
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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: emerald cracking abode sneaky criminal
It’s pretty simple:
People who get in the position to do this are, generally, slaves and know no other life. They have no hobbies, no friends who aren’t professional contacts, etc.
Lots of bros can’t stand their wives and kids or vice-versa.
Mid-50s are often highest-earning years, so it’s easy to slippery slope.
Also tend to have a lot of $$$ demands at that time in life. Sweet little daughters need someone to pay for NYU plus East Village apartment, oh and they need $5k/month for the next 5-10 years while they fuck through the city until they get married.
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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:23 PM Author: Hideous locus philosopher-king
Aren't the numbers pretty brutal?
Assuming at 55 you have $2 mm saved, if you retire at 55 you'll have about $2 mm at 65, whereas if you work, you'll have like $5-6 mm saved?
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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:17 PM
Author: ...,;;...,;;...,..,.,;,.,;;,.,;
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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:55 PM Author: emerald cracking abode sneaky criminal
$10m liquid or are you including, eg, $4m in Bay Area home equity?
What age will this be for you?
I got off biglaw treadmill for a while but am back on it (and remember why I got off it at one point).
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Date: October 29th, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
I went to a public school and went to a T14 LS on a scholarship. My HHI is like $800k/year.
30% chance of going to Cornell isn't worth $40k/year/kid. Also, as a thought exercise: $40k/year x 12 + 70k/year x 4 = $760k. That's BEFORE grad school. You could basically send your kid to UF, buy your kid a business, have them run it, then use that to get into a top MBA program or whatever, or just have them keep expanding their business and have a few hundred k left over so they can get a downpayment for a house for each kid. That's for each kid.
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Date: October 28th, 2025 1:14 AM Author: passionate cuckold gaping
Health care costs will absolutely destroy you if you try to retire before you are eligible for Medicare. I have run the numbers, and health care costs would eat up almost half of my income until Medicare kicks in.
But to answer the question more broadly, most people are poor. The median household net worth in the U.S. is around $100k. For non-homeowners, it is about $10k. For most Americans, retirement before Social Security isn't an option. I have a net worth of around $2.5 million in my mid-40's and no kids, and I would struggle to make the numbers work if I retired at 55 (mainly due to health care costs, as discussed earlier). LJL at the typical American with no savings outside of home equity retiring early.
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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:21 PM
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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
And die penniless if I get in an accident or get sick. Not really worth the risk, in my opinion. Also, in my case, my wife takes a bunch of expensive medications, so I have to pay out the nose for those with or without insurance.
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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Going without health insurance in your 50's or 60's while trying to retire early is just moronic. If you are in your 20's, then maybe, since you are likely to be both healthy and judgement-proof. But a 60-year-old FIREmo without health insurance is completely done here if they get cancer or get in a serious car accident or something. Decades of savings will be gone instantly, and you are back to wagecucking until you drop dead. No thank you. I'd rather just work for a couple more years until I can either afford insurance or am eligible for Medicare.
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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
That might be a viable strategy for you or boor or other xoxo autists, but normal people have friends and family and aren't willing to leave them on the other side of the planet just to be able to retire a few year earlier.
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Date: October 30th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
Even bottom of the barrel catastrophic coverage is super expensive for people in their 50's and 60's. And refusing to pay providers is super risky as a FIREmo. If they sue, you're fucked. Also, if you get cancer and need multiple rounds of radiation or chemo, at some point, they will stop giving you treatment if you don't pay your bills. The bottom line is that if you want to retire in the U.S. before Medicare kicks in, you need to budget a minimum of $20k per year (and probably more like $30k-$40k per year if you have any health problems) for health care expenses.
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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...
(guy who has never looked at the price of individual health plans for someone aged 50+)
Premiums alone will run around $2,000 per month, and that gets you an out-of-pocket max of just under $20k per year. So you probably need to budget $30k-$40k per year just for health care costs until Medicare kicks in. You could spend less if you are healthy. (My wife unfortunately takes several expensive medications that run $1000+ per month.) But probably around $15k-$20k per year is an absolute lower bound unless you want to risk losing everything if you get cancer.
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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:12 PM
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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: ...,;;...,;;...,..,.,;,.,;;,.,;
Fear of the unknown and stupidity prevents early retire.
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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Everything is expensive as shit and if you have a job you like then you don't retire. Eventually they'll fire you or your company will implode and you'll become "retired" because that's how shit works.
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