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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Opaque Juggernaut
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Big bright trailer park
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Boyish background story lay
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Saffron razzle goal in life
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Boyish background story lay
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Saffron razzle goal in life
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Boyish background story lay
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Comical mad-dog skullcap
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Opaque Juggernaut

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Big bright trailer park

just walk outside bro

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Big bright trailer park

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49064860)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49070377)



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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49156580)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Boyish background story lay

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Saffron razzle goal in life

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Boyish background story lay

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Saffron razzle goal in life

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Boyish background story lay

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Splenetic duck-like codepig pozpig

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Wild Charismatic Marketing Idea Base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Olive Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: twinkling site

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: shivering hell

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: fuchsia area

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Splenetic duck-like codepig pozpig

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Comical mad-dog skullcap

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: puce electric set fanboi

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: glittery half-breed

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105022)