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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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talking painfully honest base
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/16/25
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talking painfully honest base
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Zombie-like lay people who are hurt
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Zombie-like lay people who are hurt
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Zombie-like lay people who are hurt
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
talking painfully honest base
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Zombie-like lay people who are hurt
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Zombie-like lay people who are hurt
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talking painfully honest base
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aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Racy sound barrier
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
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Racy sound barrier
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
free-loading vigorous gaping
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
odious dingle berry
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
aromatic outnumbered dopamine
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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talking painfully honest base
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i love scholarship
peach contagious rehab international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Crusty buck-toothed garrison
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aromatic outnumbered dopamine
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peach contagious rehab international law enforcement agency
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talking painfully honest base
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talking painfully honest base
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Zombie-like lay people who are hurt
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Infuriating Hairy Legs
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: talking painfully honest base



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: talking painfully honest base

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Zombie-like lay people who are hurt

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Zombie-like lay people who are hurt

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Zombie-like lay people who are hurt

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: talking painfully honest base

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Zombie-like lay people who are hurt

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Zombie-like lay people who are hurt

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: talking painfully honest base



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Racy sound barrier

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Racy sound barrier



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: free-loading vigorous gaping

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: odious dingle berry

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: bistre thriller cuckold cruise ship

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: talking painfully honest base



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: peach contagious rehab international law enforcement agency

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Crusty buck-toothed garrison

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: aromatic outnumbered dopamine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: peach contagious rehab international law enforcement agency



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: talking painfully honest base



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: talking painfully honest base



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Zombie-like lay people who are hurt

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Infuriating Hairy Legs

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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