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Exhilarant Shimmering Quadroon
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
hilarious greedy property
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
hilarious greedy property
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Bespoke Macaca Rigor
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Geriatric striped hyena
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
mustard floppy toaster
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
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CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
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  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
insanely creepy hominid
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
mustard floppy toaster
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
insanely creepy hominid
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
insanely creepy hominid
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
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  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Maize center
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180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
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  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Aromatic garnet casino
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At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Exhilarant Shimmering Quadroon
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
mustard floppy toaster
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
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  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
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  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Hateful University Prole
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Exhilarant Shimmering Quadroon
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
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  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
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  06/26/25
...
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messenger bag logo facing OUT
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My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
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...
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Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
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relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
mustard floppy toaster
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
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  06/27/25
How was penn?
mustard floppy toaster
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
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I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
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...
mustard floppy toaster
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I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
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Clever Weil-bro post
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mustard floppy toaster
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
adulterous brunch
  06/27/25
How is STB?
sable boyish trailer park
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Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
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YOURE A PARTNER
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Exhilarant Shimmering Quadroon

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: hilarious greedy property

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: hilarious greedy property

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Bespoke Macaca Rigor

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Geriatric striped hyena

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Aromatic garnet casino

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: sable boyish trailer park

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: insanely creepy hominid

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: insanely creepy hominid

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: insanely creepy hominid

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: bearded spectacular knife dilemma

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Maize center

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: trip clear ticket booth

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Aromatic garnet casino

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Exhilarant Shimmering Quadroon

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Shivering international law enforcement agency

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: odious deep dog poop house

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Hateful University Prole

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Exhilarant Shimmering Quadroon

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Twinkling passionate goal in life lodge

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: frisky business firm pervert



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Comical nighttime jew

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Onyx theater blood rage

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Cracking theatre



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: startling masturbator whorehouse

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Domesticated frum circlehead public bath

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: adulterous brunch

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Domesticated frum circlehead public bath

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: mustard floppy toaster

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Aromatic garnet casino

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: sable boyish trailer park

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: mustard floppy toaster



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: electric ebony mental disorder

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Domesticated frum circlehead public bath

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: 180 French Community Account Laser Beams



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: mustard floppy toaster



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: adulterous brunch

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: sable boyish trailer park

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: provocative puppy preventive strike

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Aromatic garnet casino

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Comical nighttime jew

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Multi-colored flushed piazza candlestick maker



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Aromatic garnet casino



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