https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NCuRrq7WM

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These kids look like their parents have a shitload of disposable income and like they have never worked a job a day in their lives. Something about it lacks the traditional grit of a real band trying to make it. The production is incredible but the songwriting is very bad.

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I am not a teen anymore

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but what really impacts your enjoyment of the music is how fucking ugly the lead singer is

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https://youtu.be/QzzVKLffw0o?si=YttvDRvj3Flq0n8S

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Get up kids might be another contender for goat emo band. I don’t really like them, but they were huge

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I know virtually nothing about any other subject hope I don't come across as pompous in other areas.

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at the end of the day, there is very little objectivity involved with music though, so these debates are always silly. i've gotten into it with friends trying to convince them that kraftwerk, the fall, etc. are good and it's pointless.

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Conversely Fugazi truly sucks. So I don't know where you even go with that. They were not good lol

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similarly strong case for blink 182 being better than embrace. hard to argue, to be honest.

thing is this, you use objective metrics like "songwriting" "is this melodically inept" and "how many records did they sell" and you have it more or less down to a science.

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Did you know Fugazi won't do an interview in a magazine that has ads for tobacco or liquor? Tho brave.

If Fugazi showed me a rough draft of Waiting Room I would tell them to rewrite it.

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For example, Michael Jackson was the greatest in the world. Then he sucked for a while because the raping cost him too much money. Then he died and became great again.

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Any movie is too bad really that shit is for stupid niggers

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when you say they suck though, what do you really mean? that just means you don't think they sound good. there is essentially no way to objectively rate music. you could easily listen to the Fall and say "man this is just repetitive noise and the music isn't intricate or melodic, which is bad" while i'd say they're really good. which of us is right? neither.

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