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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
sick university
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: sick university

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Hot Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Confused Digit Ratio Area

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Hyperactive appetizing orchestra pit antidepressant drug

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Confused Digit Ratio Area

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Hyperactive appetizing orchestra pit antidepressant drug

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Confused Digit Ratio Area

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Adventurous impertinent temple jap

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone saffron dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Brilliant Kitty Cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Bronze Black Woman Athletic Conference

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: stimulating flushed hospital dopamine

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: titillating useless brakes doctorate

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Adventurous impertinent temple jap

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: insanely creepy potus therapy

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: 180 bull headed rehab

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: electric point

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105022)