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MIT has student assassinated after publishing paper on AI (WSJ)

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mit-says-it-no-longer-stands-beh...
glittery charcoal striped hyena
  05/17/25
AI can’t make novel discoveries. That’s the less...
sinister home mood
  05/17/25
Yes. Absolutely. And if it DOES make one, then it will be er...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
It already has in Chess
Rough-skinned Comical Indian Lodge
  05/17/25
what did it figure out in chess?
beta range
  05/17/25
It has made them in literally every field imaginable and the...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
Can you copy and paste this? I'm not signing up for this tr...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
https://archive.ph/I32HC
glittery charcoal striped hyena
  05/17/25
They didn't reject it because it was WRONG, they rejected it...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
...
glittery charcoal striped hyena
  05/17/25
...
Hairraiser Out-of-control Cumskin Shitlib
  05/17/25
What’s fr?
balding wonderful casino circlehead
  05/17/25
Sounds like the student made the whole thing up and deserved...
marvelous university legend
  05/17/25
How is that different from any other paper?
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
...
multi-colored soggy native
  05/17/25
...
Hairraiser Out-of-control Cumskin Shitlib
  05/17/25
Reading between the lines here, it kind of looks like he mig...
Onyx autistic gaming laptop dog poop
  05/17/25
Not necessarily. "Can't verify the provenance" is...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
(dude who made up the whole paper)
Razzle mad cow disease becky
  05/17/25
Again, how is this different from any other paper? If you a...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
...
disgusting institution
  05/17/25
Bro you got caught it’s ok
Razzle mad cow disease becky
  05/17/25
products of Project OBAMA (Orangutan-Baboon-Ape Microarray A...
Violet fighting den
  05/17/25
Was it your paper?
marvelous university legend
  05/17/25
Here's the full paper before it gets pulled down: https://ar...
Hideous death wish brunch
  05/17/25
So he used graph theory to make some dumb production node di...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
He didn't actually use graph theory. He reported that his su...
Hideous death wish brunch
  05/18/25
Lol I read this paper and thought it was real 180 this gu...
Talking Internet-worthy Multi-billionaire
  05/17/25
so the paper is fake?
boyish mediation patrolman
  05/17/25
Yeah apparently he just straight up made it all up johnsmeye...
Talking Internet-worthy Multi-billionaire
  05/17/25
It's 100% fraud. The data was fabricated and the AI tool use...
iridescent magical meetinghouse
  05/17/25
...
boyish mediation patrolman
  05/17/25
He literally got a Nobel prize winner to endorse it so it&rs...
Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard
  05/17/25
based
bright state french chef
  05/18/25
Impressive level of psychosis. Needs to be a poaster.
Hideous death wish brunch
  05/17/25
...
balding wonderful casino circlehead
  05/18/25


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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: glittery charcoal striped hyena

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mit-says-it-no-longer-stands-behind-students-ai-research-paper-11434092

https://archive.ph/I32HC

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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:15 AM
Author: sinister home mood

AI can’t make novel discoveries. That’s the lesson here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938850)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

Yes. Absolutely. And if it DOES make one, then it will be erased and deeply concerned intellectuals will pretend it never happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938856)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Comical Indian Lodge

It already has in Chess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939296)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:41 PM
Author: beta range

what did it figure out in chess?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939393)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 10:35 PM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

It has made them in literally every field imaginable and the stuff you can find publicly is the tip of the iceberg, especially when you consider humans just use AI and take credit for it. lol at "chess" being an example.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48940468)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

Can you copy and paste this? I'm not signing up for this trash, but I want to see how deeply concerned they are about AI and about the possibility someone might use it to ghostwrite a heresy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938854)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: glittery charcoal striped hyena

https://archive.ph/I32HC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938867)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

They didn't reject it because it was WRONG, they rejected it because the apelet didn't spend his late nights hunched over LaTeX with an empty fruit pile, and then go through some tribal peer review grooming ritual where Dr. Kratz interrogates him about RIGOR and the dangers of metaphor to ensure no heterodoxies slip through the cracks. Fr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938866)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: glittery charcoal striped hyena



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Hairraiser Out-of-control Cumskin Shitlib



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: balding wonderful casino circlehead

What’s fr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939749)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: marvelous university legend

Sounds like the student made the whole thing up and deserved to get got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938875)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:35 AM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

How is that different from any other paper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938877)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:55 AM
Author: multi-colored soggy native



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Date: May 17th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Hairraiser Out-of-control Cumskin Shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939711)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:39 AM
Author: Onyx autistic gaming laptop dog poop

Reading between the lines here, it kind of looks like he might have made up the existence of the lab?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938880)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

Not necessarily. "Can't verify the provenance" is just how they talk when something slips past the peer-vetting troglodyte net and might be real--but isn't sanctified by the priesthood. It doesn't even say that its talking about data provenance. It could be where the sentence structure came from. Since they can't verify it's ape prose, they are saying who knows if it came from this primate and not another one or some chimp-machine combination. Which obviously, who the hell cares, but thats how these people think. They want to ensure someone suffered to get their accolades like they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938888)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Razzle mad cow disease becky

(dude who made up the whole paper)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938910)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

Again, how is this different from any other paper? If you are talking about the data part, then who cares? LOL at believing in social sciences "data" and "experiment design". It's all made up somewhere along the chain whether its by AI or a group of chimps. If the lab was invented, then congrats--hes now on equal footing with every think thank thats ever fabricated an anecdotal "case study" to retroengineer a conclusion. If it was simulated by an AI that's called modeling. If the experiment didn't happen at all, welcome to 90% of the entire discipline of "economics" fr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48938918)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: disgusting institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939316)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Razzle mad cow disease becky

Bro you got caught it’s ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939586)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: Violet fighting den

products of Project OBAMA (Orangutan-Baboon-Ape Microarray Analysis), a heavily-funded but highly secretive post-WWII science initiative that ran for nearly 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939309)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: marvelous university legend

Was it your paper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939577)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: Hideous death wish brunch

Here's the full paper before it gets pulled down: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.17866

It's hard to think of a US corporate materials science lab with that many people, particularly one that's so diverse. Who's spending $250M/year+ on materials R&D? The project, if real, would have taken a lot of time and work and an unusual degree of cooperation from the "lab." The paper does not seem implausible, and if a fabrication it's superficially impressive, though I just skimmed it. The paper itself does not seem like it could have been written by an LLM. FWIW, the "AI" being used in the lab is described as a set of graph neural networks, which makes sense in the context.

The author is not listed in the MIT alumni directory, so he must have left very quickly after starting in 2023. His LinkedIn says he was there for 1 year and 10 months. Grad students are included in the directory after two terms. I don't know when he would have time to undertake this extensive a study. It reads like something that might actually have been undertaken by a consultant or internally. Perhaps his crime was at least partly plagiarism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939295)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

So he used graph theory to make some dumb production node diagram and dats too AI for these boomers because it involved python and tensor flow? What a joke they made it sound like he used an llm to ghostwrite the whole thing. Probably should have they wouldn’t have caught him. LLM would have generated passable data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48940062)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: Hideous death wish brunch

He didn't actually use graph theory. He reported that his supposed materials lab did. I didn't see that he specifically reported that they used Tensorflow. It's on the way out anyway, but maybe it would be reasonable to say they used it a couple of years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48941311)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Talking Internet-worthy Multi-billionaire

Lol I read this paper and thought it was real

180 this guy is based whoever he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939299)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: boyish mediation patrolman

so the paper is fake?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939317)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Talking Internet-worthy Multi-billionaire

Yeah apparently he just straight up made it all up johnsmeyer style

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939580)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: iridescent magical meetinghouse

It's 100% fraud. The data was fabricated and the AI tool used in the study he describes never existed. He even tried to make a fake website with Corning to back up his fraud, but they stopped him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939343)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: boyish mediation patrolman



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Date: May 17th, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: Avocado stirring athletic conference haunted graveyard

He literally got a Nobel prize winner to endorse it so it’s a 180 bit and shows Econ is all made up fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48940068)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 6:22 AM
Author: bright state french chef

based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48940788)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: Hideous death wish brunch

Impressive level of psychosis. Needs to be a poaster.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48939690)



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Date: May 18th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: balding wonderful casino circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5726250&forum_id=2).#48941521)