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Trump getting rid of automatic engine shutoff in cars.

Lee Zeldin @epaleezeldin Start/stop technology: where yo...
Beady-eyed whorehouse new version
  05/12/25
jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid
brilliant masturbator
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mount rushmore him now
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turquoise odious water buffalo
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Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it bu...
Diverse Misunderstood Laser Beams
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I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting yo...
violent impressive juggernaut
  05/12/25
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Ungodly provocative area coldplay fan
  05/12/25
Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. T...
Beady-eyed whorehouse new version
  05/12/25
variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at ...
alcoholic medicated becky
  05/13/25
did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you ...
shimmering puppy
  05/12/25
it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, h...
Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm
  05/12/25
Fucks up the starter, and is pointless. I had a car that th...
indigo talking parlor
  05/12/25
Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?
alcoholic medicated becky
  05/13/25
Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car d...
violent impressive juggernaut
  05/12/25
It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set i...
avocado shrine wrinkle
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violent impressive juggernaut
  05/12/25
its like the calibri font of car features
House-broken Address Multi-billionaire
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turquoise odious water buffalo
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pungent frum gaming laptop
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Exciting hot knife
  05/14/25
It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass t...
lavender station foreskin
  05/12/25
This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180...
lavender station foreskin
  05/12/25
If this actually one of the worst things in your life congra...
Passionate doobsian school
  05/12/25
it was always a ridiculous concept
House-broken Address Multi-billionaire
  05/12/25
Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your sta...
Bateful Mexican
  05/12/25
just remove the second little twink battery your car will au...
Boyish place of business
  05/12/25
Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at...
cowardly national
  05/12/25
Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change ...
indigo talking parlor
  05/12/25
Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the fi...
spectacular piazza organic girlfriend
  05/12/25
i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it...
Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm
  05/12/25
*creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep ca...
spectacular piazza organic girlfriend
  05/12/25
China*
Electric zippy antidepressant drug
  05/12/25
Vovlo is chinese bro
Electric zippy antidepressant drug
  05/12/25
Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to ...
indigo talking parlor
  05/12/25
How was Sixt otherwise?
pungent frum gaming laptop
  05/13/25
I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they ...
spectacular piazza organic girlfriend
  05/13/25
Patriots are in control
rose hyperventilating factory reset button
  05/12/25
"For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from thi...
Marvelous Step-uncle's House Death Wish
  05/12/25
"idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucki...
House-broken Address Multi-billionaire
  05/12/25
fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense
Fragrant round eye
  05/13/25
do not disagree any idea where to get non fraud numbers?
Marvelous Step-uncle's House Death Wish
  05/13/25
there really don't seem to be any. everything seems to be...
Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm
  05/13/25
20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red light...
Electric zippy antidepressant drug
  05/14/25
are you a nyc uber driver?
Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm
  05/14/25
wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling?
Electric zippy antidepressant drug
  05/14/25
Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time.
violent impressive juggernaut
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ljl
Electric zippy antidepressant drug
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ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is st...
alcoholic medicated becky
  05/13/25
*Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway*
disgusting translucent turdskin
  05/13/25
*Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest*
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Beady-eyed whorehouse new version
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I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me ab...
heady domesticated trailer park hunting ground
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lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute wh...
Electric zippy antidepressant drug
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It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it ...
heady domesticated trailer park hunting ground
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i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die ...
Electric zippy antidepressant drug
  05/14/25
libs have shit for brains
Marvelous Step-uncle's House Death Wish
  05/19/25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MSv1om_7DgU
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Date: May 12th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Beady-eyed whorehouse new version

Lee Zeldin

@epaleezeldin

Start/stop technology: where your car dies at every red light so companies get a climate participation trophy. EPA approved it, and everyone hates it, so we’re fixing it.

https://x.com/epaleezeldin/status/1921894994769575972

So you voted for global warming, rising sea levels and mass climate refugees? Are you sure about this, Trumpkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923573)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: brilliant masturbator

jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929783)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm

mount rushmore him now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923581)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Beady-eyed whorehouse new version

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923582)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: talented flirting kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923808)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: cruel-hearted home coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924185)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: turquoise odious water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924264)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Diverse Misunderstood Laser Beams

Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it but I've had rentals and it doesnt bother me at all. The engine instantly restarts. Does the function degrade over time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923583)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: violent impressive juggernaut

I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting your car engine hundreds of times a day for no reason is going to fuck it up over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923588)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Ungodly provocative area coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923590)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Beady-eyed whorehouse new version

Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. The energy costs of prematurely replacing starters, etc. is going to be way more than the energy saved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923594)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: alcoholic medicated becky

variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at startup so they require less toque to crank. Hybrids run in atkinson cycle full time, so what you may be feeling is the shift in valve timing after the crankshaft gets cranked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928460)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: shimmering puppy

did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you turn your 70s vehicle on and off at each stoplight? those are the only way your "obviously" retarded claim would be true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924192)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm

it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, hit the gas, and ooops the car has to restart itself.

also it is just there to game CAFE stats, directly raising the frontend cost of the car and prematurely wearing out the battery, starter and alternator to do it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923635)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: indigo talking parlor

Fucks up the starter, and is pointless.

I had a car that the AC would turn off when this happened too. You can disable it but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923813)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: alcoholic medicated becky

Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927473)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: violent impressive juggernaut

Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car doesn't have it but every rental car does and I always have to disable it every time I start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923585)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: avocado shrine wrinkle

It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set it once, you have to turn off the "feature" every time you start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923600)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: violent impressive juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923609)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: House-broken Address Multi-billionaire

its like the calibri font of car features

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923618)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: lavender station foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923621)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:47 PM
Author: turquoise odious water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924271)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: pungent frum gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927457)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: Exciting hot knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929781)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: lavender station foreskin

It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass to disable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923619)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: lavender station foreskin

This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180 if he does this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923586)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Passionate doobsian school

If this actually one of the worst things in your life congrats on your chill life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923674)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: House-broken Address Multi-billionaire

it was always a ridiculous concept

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923599)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Bateful Mexican

Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your starter 3x as often!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923663)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Boyish place of business

just remove the second little twink battery your car will automatically recognize this and deactivate the system (not legal advice)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923669)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: cowardly national

Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at a red light.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923680)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: indigo talking parlor

Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change "climate change" so why fuck up our lives fixing imaginary problems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923806)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: spectacular piazza organic girlfriend

Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the first stop light, which is very long, that your engine and AC are shut off. There is no physical button to disable the feature and the menus on the touchscreen are impenetrable with the checkbox to disable this intentionally buried by a Swedish engineer who has never seen a 90 degree day in his life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924102)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm

i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it from newest models, that guy in Sweden caught on that you mistakenly felt you needed air conditioning. you now have to put it into manual at the light, or keep pressing the gas to keep it going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924116)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: spectacular piazza organic girlfriend

*creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep car in motion*

Being fatally T-boned to death would be preferable to dying of heat stroke. At least less sweaty and more dignified a way to go out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924173)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Electric zippy antidepressant drug

China*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924202)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Electric zippy antidepressant drug

Vovlo is chinese bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924200)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: indigo talking parlor

Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to herpes and the clap. Don’t ask how I know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924305)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: pungent frum gaming laptop

How was Sixt otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927463)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: spectacular piazza organic girlfriend

I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they might negligently have you jailed.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928444)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: rose hyperventilating factory reset button

Patriots are in control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924180)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: Marvelous Step-uncle's House Death Wish

"For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from this technology are typically in the range of 3–10%, potentially as high as 12%.[3] In the United States, according to the Department of Energy, idling wastes more than 6 billion U.S. gallons (23 billion liters; 5.0 billion imperial gallons) of fuel per year.[4]"

"The amount of gasoline used annually in the US varies from year to year, but it is generally in the range of 120 to 140 billion gallons. This translates to an average of about 340 to 390 million gallons per day. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924251)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: House-broken Address Multi-billionaire

"idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucking retards fiddling with their phones while stopped in the right lane for 15 minutes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924390)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:55 AM
Author: Fragrant round eye

fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48926158)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: Marvelous Step-uncle's House Death Wish

do not disagree

any idea where to get non fraud numbers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927454)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm

there really don't seem to be any.

everything seems to be based on crazy studies that claim that people spend 20% of their time idling (https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/does-auto-start-stop-save-fuel/)

if that were true, maybe it would make some sense, but then you'd expect to just have it as a feature people could turn on and off and not some shit that is forced down people's throats.

even taking industry numbers at face value, grok thinks it would take about 3 years to save enough gas to make up for the higher purchase price, and if you include higher ongoing maintenance costs it would be an overall expense



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927540)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Electric zippy antidepressant drug

20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red lights or waiting your turn to turn, etc?

do you think you are driving forward 90% of the time? if so you are probably retarded or a trucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929748)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Dark Excitant Ceo Business Firm

are you a nyc uber driver?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929810)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Electric zippy antidepressant drug

wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929960)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: violent impressive juggernaut

Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929953)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: Electric zippy antidepressant drug

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929958)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: alcoholic medicated becky

ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is stopping or starting. You need an icon on the dashboard to tell you when it's EV mode

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927478)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: disgusting translucent turdskin

*Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928450)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: Histrionic pit

*Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928469)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Beady-eyed whorehouse new version

.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929771)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: heady domesticated trailer park hunting ground

I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me absolutely crazy. Why oh why do Democrats leave these 98/2 issues for Republicans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929770)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Electric zippy antidepressant drug

lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute while you dont move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929784)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: heady domesticated trailer park hunting ground

It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it feels like the car died. I had a piece of shit car as a youth that died in traffic several times so maybe it’s low-level PTSD. Perhaps this is why oldmos hate it more, we remember when Cars were Bad and died randomly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929854)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Electric zippy antidepressant drug

i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die at a traffic stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929961)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:46 PM
Author: Marvelous Step-uncle's House Death Wish

libs have shit for brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48945959)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: violent impressive juggernaut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MSv1om_7DgU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929776)