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Episcopal Church CANCEL refugee resettlement rather than take in Afrikaners

Episcopal Church refuses to resettle white Afrikaners, ends ...
Soggy Cracking Stage
  05/12/25
"you" are you a fucking South African too? lik...
twinkling wonderful psychic
  05/12/25
"you" means white people. And animeboi presumably ...
crusty fuchsia boistinker voyeur
  05/14/25
I'm white, idiot.
Soggy Cracking Stage
  05/14/25
Wow. This is real. They really really hate us. Afrikaners ...
adventurous yapping deer antler
  05/12/25
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narrow-minded racy step-uncle's house
  05/14/25
Trumpmos call this winning
Razzmatazz rehab
  05/12/25
amazing
contagious orchestra pit
  05/12/25
Satan is pushing his chips in
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lascivious cyan menage filthpig
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SO MUCH WINNING FOLKS
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Brindle trailer park philosopher-king
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Lol
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lmao
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Rowe
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Awkward juggernaut
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chest-beating well-lubricated lodge
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Jesus Christ
tripping green codepig
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Love how Christians will take in any criminal rapist so long...
abusive gas station
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Odd case for a religion predicated upon worshipping a schizo...
Opaque Sick Toaster
  05/13/25
They were waving in somalis like a third base coach around h...
wine coiffed senate haunted graveyard
  05/13/25
They are a social justice organization, not a church. Sad. ...
jet razzle-dazzle regret
  05/12/25
(it's a church)
diverse plum blood rage
  05/12/25
?
Blathering Vibrant Stag Film
  05/13/25
Sean Walter Rowe (born February 16, 1975[2]) is an American ...
diverse plum blood rage
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pretty sure Protestant "churches" are really just ...
Blathering Vibrant Stag Film
  05/13/25
You're right.
diverse plum blood rage
  05/13/25
Nominally, but not in practice was my point.
jet razzle-dazzle regret
  05/13/25
These white people thought it made sense to live in Africa. ...
diverse plum blood rage
  05/13/25
Great input kike
abusive gas station
  05/13/25
This is the fist time I've ever laid eyes on non-Jewish Sout...
diverse plum blood rage
  05/13/25
The white people moved to Africa to, among other reasons, co...
jet razzle-dazzle regret
  05/13/25
These white ppl were born there
Salmon Boyish Pozpig
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Opaque Sick Toaster
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Federal spectacular clown police squad
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"Yes, Minister" saw this in the 1980s - here is th...
adventurous yapping deer antler
  05/13/25
At this point your only real choices in the US are small, co...
jet razzle-dazzle regret
  05/13/25
wow
hot orange chapel shitlib
  05/13/25
Christcucks: “and why that’s a good thing!&rdquo...
Opaque Sick Toaster
  05/13/25
isn't that the church from whose pulpit the Bishop lectured ...
Federal spectacular clown police squad
  05/13/25
Yes but not like this, not for them
tripping green codepig
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mischievous bearded locus
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abusive gas station
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He didn't say the church is winding down those operations. I...
diverse plum blood rage
  05/13/25
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adventurous yapping deer antler
  05/14/25
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smoky set fortuitous meteor
  05/14/25
doesn't sound much like a man of God here. sounds like a pol...
Federal spectacular clown police squad
  05/14/25
Not like Michael J. Knowles
diverse plum blood rage
  05/14/25
? Knowles is a political polemicist; Rowe is supposedly a...
Federal spectacular clown police squad
  05/14/25
Knowles is a devout Catholic. The real deal
diverse plum blood rage
  05/14/25
i just saw that. sounds like he had gone atheist and then in...
Federal spectacular clown police squad
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https://x.com/guypbenson/status/1922339139703263564
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Most Rev. Rowe: "Fundraising: It is important to und...
Federal spectacular clown police squad
  05/14/25
Lmfao at Christians
abusive gas station
  05/14/25
yeah, "christians"
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(((Christians)))
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Soggy Cracking Stage

Episcopal Church refuses to resettle white Afrikaners, ends partnership with US government

(RNS) — 'In light of our church’s steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step,' the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church said in a letter.

https://religionnews.com/2025/05/12/episcopal-church-ends-refugee-resettlement-citing-moral-opposition-to-resettling-white-afrikaners/

These people really really hate you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924197)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:56 PM
Author: twinkling wonderful psychic

"you"

are you a fucking South African too? like half the republican donor base. (other half is jews)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925963)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 2:39 AM
Author: crusty fuchsia boistinker voyeur

"you" means white people. And animeboi presumably wasn't including himself in that "you," as he is Asian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929074)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Soggy Cracking Stage

I'm white, idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48930343)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: adventurous yapping deer antler

Wow. This is real. They really really hate us.

Afrikaners aren't Episcopalian / Anglican anyway, they are Reformed Church (Calvinists), they can find better people than lame Anglicans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924204)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: narrow-minded racy step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929403)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: Razzmatazz rehab

Trumpmos call this winning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924206)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: contagious orchestra pit

amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924219)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: sepia indirect expression genital piercing

Satan is pushing his chips in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924226)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 5:35 AM
Author: lascivious cyan menage filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926186)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Slippery public bath feces

SO MUCH WINNING FOLKS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924234)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: Brindle trailer park philosopher-king



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: flesh submissive plaza dopamine

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924328)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: Greedy community account kitty

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924329)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: Greedy community account kitty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Rowe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924333)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: Awkward juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924823)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: chest-beating well-lubricated lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48924837)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:44 PM
Author: tripping green codepig

Jesus Christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925943)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:52 PM
Author: abusive gas station

Love how Christians will take in any criminal rapist so long as they aren't peaceful or white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925957)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Opaque Sick Toaster

Odd case for a religion predicated upon worshipping a schizophrenic rabbi from

2K years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926544)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: wine coiffed senate haunted graveyard

They were waving in somalis like a third base coach around here. Fucking lutherans literally hosting muslims

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48927129)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: jet razzle-dazzle regret

They are a social justice organization, not a church. Sad. Infects most of main line Protestantism as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925961)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:56 PM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

(it's a church)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925962)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:01 AM
Author: Blathering Vibrant Stag Film

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925970)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:01 AM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

Sean Walter Rowe (born February 16, 1975[2]) is an American bishop who has served as the 28th Presiding Bishop and primate of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America since 2024.[3][4][5]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925973)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:02 AM
Author: Blathering Vibrant Stag Film

pretty sure Protestant "churches" are really just ecclesial communities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925975)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:03 AM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

You're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925978)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: jet razzle-dazzle regret

Nominally, but not in practice was my point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926014)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:40 AM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

These white people thought it made sense to live in Africa. They went whole hog on that project. The church is treating them like heritics, like medieval monks saying "you're not welcome in this abbey."

What's weird is thinking these people deserve pity instead of exposure and mockery (which is what they are getting in the marketplace of ideas).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926020)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:41 AM
Author: abusive gas station

Great input kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926021)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:47 AM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

This is the fist time I've ever laid eyes on non-Jewish South African whites. I knew they existed in theory but never saw proof of concept.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926028)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: jet razzle-dazzle regret

The white people moved to Africa to, among other reasons, convert the heathens. They did this and the church Anglican Church forsake them. Now the Dutch reformed in SA stayed loyal. Not sure where it is now.

More broadly, the Church of England (English anglicans) and the episcopal church (US anglicans) is incredibly shitlib (gays, women pastors, social justice etc.) whereas the African Anglicans are still biblical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926254)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 7:19 AM
Author: Salmon Boyish Pozpig

These white ppl were born there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926272)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Opaque Sick Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926547)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Federal spectacular clown police squad



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: adventurous yapping deer antler

"Yes, Minister" saw this in the 1980s - here is their bit about choosing a new Anglican bishop:

https://youtu.be/m2dNCw0hPLs?si=XdZalBKhBFZ9LOSS

https://youtu.be/QDY2Sy4SUm0?si=G4-o_RmDo3BWK05J

https://youtu.be/7eVHna4Unlk?si=F1R-cnxfTv0wtI4E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926916)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: jet razzle-dazzle regret

At this point your only real choices in the US are small, conservative denominations, hope for the best with your local LCMS, PCA, or ACNA, or go Roman Catholic or Orthodox. The decline of main line Protestantism into woke social justice organizations is truly tragic.

I suppose you can be Baptist or non-denomination but they are basically the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48927180)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: hot orange chapel shitlib

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48925982)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Opaque Sick Toaster

Christcucks: “and why that’s a good thing!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48926540)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: Federal spectacular clown police squad

isn't that the church from whose pulpit the Bishop lectured Trump on the Christian duty of assisting immigrants?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48927196)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: tripping green codepig

Yes but not like this, not for them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48927229)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: mischievous bearded locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48930262)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 7:49 PM
Author: abusive gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48928216)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

He didn't say the church is winding down those operations. It's just not renewing its contract with the US government.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48928226)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:48 AM
Author: adventurous yapping deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48928965)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 1:30 AM
Author: smoky set fortuitous meteor



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: Federal spectacular clown police squad

doesn't sound much like a man of God here. sounds like a pol who sits in a particular caucus.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1922522083566715080

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929382)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

Not like Michael J. Knowles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929393)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: Federal spectacular clown police squad

?

Knowles is a political polemicist; Rowe is supposedly a man of God.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929421)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: diverse plum blood rage

Knowles is a devout Catholic. The real deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929424)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: Federal spectacular clown police squad

i just saw that. sounds like he had gone atheist and then intellectually worked his way back to Truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929430)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Federal spectacular clown police squad

https://x.com/guypbenson/status/1922339139703263564

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929509)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Federal spectacular clown police squad

Most Rev. Rowe:

"Fundraising: It is important to understand the scale of federal grant money from which we are stepping away. In most recent years, Episcopal Migration Ministries received more than $50 million annually in federal funds. This is not a loss that can be bridged with donor funds or proceeds from investments. However, we will raise funds for new and expanded migration ministries across the church and for our partners in this ministry. You can contribute to this new work by making a donation on the Episcopal Migration Ministries website."

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Dear People of God in The Episcopal Church:

I am writing today with some significant news about Episcopal Migration Ministries, the organization that leads The Episcopal Church’s refugee resettlement ministry.

Since January, the previously bipartisan U.S. Refugee Admissions Program in which we participate has essentially shut down. Virtually no new refugees have arrived, hundreds of staff in resettlement agencies around the country have been laid off, and funding for resettling refugees who have already arrived has been uncertain. Then, just over two weeks ago, the federal government informed Episcopal Migration Ministries that under the terms of our federal grant, we are expected to resettle white Afrikaners from South Africa whom the U.S. government has classified as refugees.

In light of our church’s steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step. Accordingly, we have determined that, by the end of the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government.

I want to be very clear about why we made this decision—and what we believe lies ahead for Episcopal Migration Ministries’ vital work.

It has been painful to watch one group of refugees, selected in a highly unusual manner, receive preferential treatment over many others who have been waiting in refugee camps or dangerous conditions for years. I am saddened and ashamed that many of the refugees who are being denied entrance to the United States are brave people who worked alongside our military in Iraq and Afghanistan and now face danger at home because of their service to our country. I also grieve that victims of religious persecution, including Christians, have not been granted refuge in recent months.

As Christians, we must be guided not by political vagaries, but by the sure and certain knowledge that the kingdom of God is revealed to us in the struggles of those on the margins. Jesus tells us to care for the poor and vulnerable as we would care for him, and we must follow that command. Right now, what that means is ending our participation in the federal government’s refugee resettlement program and investing our resources in serving migrants in other ways.

For nearly 40 years, Episcopal Migration Ministries has put hands and feet to our church’s commitment to seek and serve Christ in migrants and refugees. We have served nearly 110,000 refugees during this time, many of whom are now American citizens and beloved members of our communities, workplaces, and neighborhoods. Over the years, EMM has resettled individuals from Ukraine, Democratic Republic of Congo, and Myanmar. We have supported vulnerable populations from across the globe, regardless of nationality.

Since March, a dedicated team of Episcopal Migration Ministries employees has fulfilled our commitment to serve people who arrived just before or in the first days of the new administration. Now that we are ending our involvement in federally funded refugee resettlement, we have asked the administration to work toward a mutual agreement that will allow us to wind down all federally funded services by the end of the federal fiscal year in September. We are working with the affected staff members to provide extensive outplacement services and severance packages.

I have said before that no change in political fortunes alters our commitment to stand with the world’s most vulnerable people, and I want to reaffirm that promise. While our public-private partnership as a refugee resettlement agency is no longer viable, we are hard at work on a churchwide plan to support migrants and refugees through:

Diocesan partnerships: We have vibrant ministries around the church serving migrants of all kinds. Episcopalians support newcomers through education, direct service, and advocacy. Our dioceses also work to address the root causes of migration. We pledge to redouble our efforts to support these ministries and the migrants among us.

Global connections: We will invest in our ministries that support forced migrants throughout the countries and territories of The Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion. This includes our powerful ministry in Europe, where the Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe has served more than 140,000 refugees in the last two years, primarily from North Africa, Ukraine, and Central Asia. We will continue to work with our dioceses and Anglican partners throughout Central America to help those seeking safety.

Continued support for refugees: While new refugee arrivals and funding have been curtailed by the current administration, thousands of refugees welcomed by Episcopal Migration Ministries in previous years still need support. We will invite Episcopalians to connect with resettled refugees and explore how to continue services we have long provided—language services, continuing education, support with childcare, and job training. If refugee resettlement begins again with the support of private sponsors, we will explore those new possibilities.

Fundraising: It is important to understand the scale of federal grant money from which we are stepping away. In most recent years, Episcopal Migration Ministries received more than $50 million annually in federal funds. This is not a loss that can be bridged with donor funds or proceeds from investments. However, we will raise funds for new and expanded migration ministries across the church and for our partners in this ministry. You can contribute to this new work by making a donation on the Episcopal Migration Ministries website.

In the coming weeks, Episcopal Migration Ministries will share more news about how to be involved. In the meantime, please pray for vetted refugees who have not been granted permission to come to this country, for the staff who will be affected by the end of these federal grants, and for everyone who grieves the end of our federal refugee resettlement work.

May our faith in the Risen Christ, who draws all people to himself, sustain and guide us through the tumult of these times.

https://www.episcopalchurch.org/publicaffairs/letter-from-presiding-bishop-sean-rowe-on-episcopal-migration-ministries/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48929536)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: abusive gas station

Lmfao at Christians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48930249)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: Blathering Vibrant Stag Film

yeah, "christians"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48930276)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Mewling Medicated Pistol

(((Christians)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48930408)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: mischievous bearded locus



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Date: May 14th, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: abusive gas station

Yes Christians

If they had any spine this dumb kike would have been hung within minutes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724088&forum_id=2).#48930742)