but wtf man, he went to a school that has consistently been in the T7 or so for the last 25 years, and is currently ranked #3 - above HLS - by USNWR. the poor reasoning, typos, bad writing, etc all make no sense. how in the hell did he get into one of the most elite law schools in the entire world? and a school, at that, known for grinding the shit out of students (unlike YLS or HLS, which are probably NOT RIGOROUS by any measure).

do we know for sure that he graduated from that school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548100)

ZZZ never did BIGLAW for any sizable amount of time as far as I can tell. Hence he never acquired good writing skills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548129)

then i started working for a solo who'd gone to dartmouth and YLS. he had a pretty nice practice and was a smart dood. he had really high standards, and i am a pretty good writer. i honed my skills under that guy and got a lot of experience that i wouldn't have gotten at a bigger firm.

then i went to a bigger regional firm (~200 attorneys), and the partners there really got all over me for minor typos and mistakes and such, so i improved my attention to detail.

i jumped to biglaw and the nitpicking was on steroids, and i learned how to bullshit clients.

i can't imagine trying to figure any of this stuff out on my own straight out of law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548149)

there is something seriously wrong with this guy. he might have legit had a mental breakdown or some injury that affected his cognition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548168)

He should probably give seminars to T14 1Ls about this, like the lawyer version of Matt Foley

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548819)

i do think you're being pretty generous with the "one wrong move" thing. i made a few grievous mistakes early in my career. with his prestigious background he could always turn things around. perhaps all this ribbing will encourage him to devote more time into developing writing and proof-reading skills, and to reconsider damaging his reputation further by continuing to doggedly litigate suits over $10k in debt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548855)

UPDATE: IT DID NOT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#49188731)

The start of my legal career was rather ignominious, but I still became rather good just from seeing depo transcripts and filings from other good attorneys and emulating the quality parts. The catch is that it takes inherent talent to know what is garbage and what should be emulated, and the vast majority of attorneys do not have that. My experience with some median hires from my own "Top 16" school was that they were terrible and could not do good work even with 100x the feedback and coaching I received. You can go sentence by sentence telling them how to write well and they still cannot do it. In a 10 page draft, there might be less than 5 sentences that cannot be improved on in some major way. And broad issues like strategy and organization are impenetrable to them...they can only follow instructions in the most basic manner, like keeping an introduction short, but it will never be good. I am sure there are many, many attorneys who missed a few less LSAT questions than the ones I am discussing, but are similarly deficient of talent, and I don't think any amount of teaching or experience will make them much better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548791)

i've met plenty of of elite ls people who are truly retarded. he had a 4.0 in poli sci so it's plausible his lsat was mid-160s. a midwit can achieve that with effort and luck. also he seems quite autistic and might be good at pattern recognition and shit and but terrible at writing. autists who performed strongly on standardized tests aren't always the best writers.

also good chance he got a big bump for his neurodivergence (crippling autism).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548150)

it really makes no sense. maybe his family donated millions to the school or something.

do you really get a leg up for being aspie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548158)

ls admission dorks can consider anything. who knows whether he wrote some tear-jerker personal essay about his dream of becoming a lawyer despite being autistic? either way, although school prestige is still a solid indicator of a new attorney's potential, it's obviously been skin suited quite a bit and is far from perfect. tons of genius TTT grads and absolute retards from t14s out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548187)

I dont know a single lawyer who went solo early in their career that excels at practicing law. Some find success despite their shortcomings as a lawyer, but it is all but impossible to learn to practice law well as a solo and will yourself to actually do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548263)

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5453135&mc=40&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47548411)

basically, this boart has a good share of failed shitlawyers now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#47554508)

everyone (including ZZZ) hates karen

karen hates tsinah

tsinah hired ZZZ to water his garden or something and they got along

tsinah points out that karen is operasoprano and also maybe lisa rowe

operasoprano doobsed half the board like 10 years ago and somehow it never got mentioned until now

she also killed watchmen, and maybe lisa rowe, unless she *is* lisa rowe

and EPAH is somehow in the middle of all this running "who? Me?" schtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#49205371)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5512417&forum_id=2).#49205412)