\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
Fantasy-prone ebony parlour
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
misanthropic public bath selfie
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
misanthropic public bath selfie
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
cracking genital piercing
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Mind-boggling aggressive police squad orchestra pit
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
nighttime translucent organic girlfriend ratface
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Thriller bonkers dilemma alpha
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Thriller bonkers dilemma alpha
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Thriller bonkers dilemma alpha
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Ruby gaped internal respiration indian lodge
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
flirting volcanic crater idiot
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Titillating pink step-uncle's house fortuitous meteor
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Fantasy-prone ebony parlour
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
sticky church building
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
iridescent insane lodge
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Gay bisexual potus office
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Fantasy-prone ebony parlour
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Sienna scourge upon the earth church
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/26/25
...
irradiated gunner field
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Canary Vibrant Property
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Fluffy Shrine
  06/26/25
...
Ivory partner
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Chest-beating philosopher-king rigor
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
stirring abode
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
walnut den faggotry
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
stirring abode
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
nighttime translucent organic girlfriend ratface
  06/27/25
...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
stubborn turquoise double fault
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
stirring abode
  06/27/25
...
Wine set
  06/27/25
...
Slap-happy nursing home
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
walnut den faggotry
  06/27/25
How is STB?
nighttime translucent organic girlfriend ratface
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
buff insecure ticket booth
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Canary Vibrant Property
  06/27/25
...
crystalline rebellious fanboi rehab
  06/27/25
...
bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles
  06/27/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone ebony parlour

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052006)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052012)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: misanthropic public bath selfie

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052822)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052832)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: misanthropic public bath selfie

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052838)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: cracking genital piercing

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052842)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Mind-boggling aggressive police squad orchestra pit

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053272)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053413)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053456)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: nighttime translucent organic girlfriend ratface

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053468)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Thriller bonkers dilemma alpha

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054437)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054461)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Thriller bonkers dilemma alpha

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054462)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Thriller bonkers dilemma alpha

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054440)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052014)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Ruby gaped internal respiration indian lodge

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052790)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052821)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052016)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052023)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: flirting volcanic crater idiot

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053336)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Titillating pink step-uncle's house fortuitous meteor

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052025)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052039)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052044)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone ebony parlour

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052774)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052820)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: sticky church building

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053140)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: iridescent insane lodge

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053406)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Gay bisexual potus office

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053841)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone ebony parlour

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054162)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Sienna scourge upon the earth church

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052048)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052055)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: irradiated gunner field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052828)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Canary Vibrant Property

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052792)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Fluffy Shrine

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052844)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Ivory partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053127)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Chest-beating philosopher-king rigor

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053137)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: stirring abode

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053216)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: walnut den faggotry

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053237)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053245)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: stirring abode

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053287)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053374)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053463)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: nighttime translucent organic girlfriend ratface

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053489)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054103)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: stubborn turquoise double fault

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053271)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: stirring abode

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053286)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Wine set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053324)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Slap-happy nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053373)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: walnut den faggotry

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053393)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: nighttime translucent organic girlfriend ratface

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053474)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: buff insecure ticket booth

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053501)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053507)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Canary Vibrant Property

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054201)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: crystalline rebellious fanboi rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053812)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: bespoke swashbuckling fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053817)