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Charismatic khaki associate point
  05/19/25
they "started" losing the war the day the failed t...
Arrogant lemon parlor jewess
  05/19/25
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big ivory circlehead
  05/19/25
well day 3
glassy windowlicker
  05/19/25
so this will have worked out well for Ukraine after all? Huz...
Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property
  05/19/25
Argument An expert’s point of view on a current event...
Emerald Beady-eyed Piazza
  05/19/25
To be fair, Wow! Big, if true! lmao
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
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Balding cuckoldry principal's office
  05/19/25
dumb piece, as you'd expect from The Economist. amusing the ...
crystalline thriller hominid stock car
  05/19/25
Do you suck penises?
geriatric brindle juggernaut
  05/19/25
i mean, we all have a price
crystalline thriller hominid stock car
  05/19/25
Here's the full article: https://archive.ph/ROP3y I th...
Charismatic khaki associate point
  05/19/25
Bro they busted up Ukraine's fancy spy drone network last we...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
To be fair, CR When you REALLY think about it, this w...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
...
Violent space son of senegal
  05/19/25
cr it would be much better for Ukraine to end the war by&hel...
big ivory circlehead
  05/19/25
To be fair, Well I would assume, given that when you REAL...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
God the cope never ends holy shit
copper frum locus patrolman
  05/19/25
I called it days ago. It's May and they got no mojo.
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
Yeah, normally this time of year Ukrainian and Western intel...
Charismatic khaki associate point
  05/19/25
It would cost the lives of many men who have already served ...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
All of the major offensives have been horrific failures. The...
Titillating Nowag
  05/19/25
How is that ironic. Are you implying trump Colludes with Rus...
autistic trip cuckold
  05/19/25
To be fair, Yes, despite being unironically literally tho...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/20/25
Is Putin even going to see July?
medicated reading party
  05/19/25
Many foreign policy experts are saying NO!
Violent space son of senegal
  05/19/25
His replacement is going to be a ballbreaker. Putin is the m...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
no, he is expected to finally reach end stage Parkinsons aro...
crystalline thriller hominid stock car
  05/19/25
If his diarrhea inducing chemo doesn't get him first
insanely creepy learning disabled brethren
  05/19/25
To be fair, The real tragedy isn't that Putler's late sta...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
lolz, this again
Balding cuckoldry principal's office
  05/19/25
they have to be almost out of shells by now
Histrionic chest-beating menage
  05/19/25
This seems like a conclusion in search of evidence.
geriatric brindle juggernaut
  05/19/25
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sooty supple volcanic crater
  05/19/25
Putin already said they can do war for 20 years if they need...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
...
Balding cuckoldry principal's office
  05/19/25
Trump moving on Putin like a bitch: https://x.com/KyivInd...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
"Its failure has been accompanied by enormous losses: a...
Yellow swashbuckling athletic conference stage
  05/19/25
"Casualties" includes bruised elbows.
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
The coverage of this war is so frustrating. This article...
Irradiated hunting ground gas station
  05/19/25
To be fair, *(((GAY JEWISH AMERICAN MSM NEWS OUTLET))) SH...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
Off your meds again Claire?
glassy windowlicker
  05/19/25
To be fair, Haha yeah I'm retarded and crazy Btw which...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
Oh man! You are so red-pilled. Really got that SECRET knowle...
glassy windowlicker
  05/19/25
To be fair, Yeah, I'm retarded + insane + stupid + poor e...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
I don't see why you being a faggot has to get in the way of ...
Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property
  05/19/25
To be fair, CR Wait but so which of the fake and gay i...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
To be fair, ???
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
what part of me thinking eveything is fake and gay do you no...
Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property
  05/19/25
To be fair, I'm gay
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
well duh
Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property
  05/19/25
...
deep stimulating goal in life resort
  05/19/25
To be fair, ???
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/19/25
you write like an unhinged 35yr old unemployed loser who spe...
glassy windowlicker
  05/20/25
To be fair, CR I'm the absolute worst and frankly I shoul...
exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker
  05/20/25
Kiev can't be flipped politically unless Russia inflicts mas...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
"Kiev can't be flipped politically" What does t...
Balding cuckoldry principal's office
  05/19/25
Ceausescu the POTUS because he's a fuckup, go on TV and say ...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
ROFL@ shitcons believing EVERYTHING Putin says. Never change...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
You realize that Russia advances daily, right? It isn't lik...
Balding cuckoldry principal's office
  05/19/25
The advances are having no strategic effect, unless Russia i...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
Another thing is that they are shooting down F-16s and wreck...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
This is the thing that Russia just wrecked. https://x.co...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
Looks like things started going to shit around May 10. h...
odious underhanded home
  05/19/25
In what way is this NOT a vietnam- or afghanistan- (their wa...
exciting kitty cruise ship
  05/20/25
They're not deployed across the earth. They have literal rai...
odious underhanded home
  05/20/25
(1) I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence on an iss...
exciting kitty cruise ship
  05/20/25
Sorry, it was less of a comment about you than the fact that...
odious underhanded home
  05/20/25
For one thing, Ukraine can't fight any sort of irregular war...
odious underhanded home
  05/20/25
Simple. Vietnam and Afghanistan were wars in faraway places...
Balding cuckoldry principal's office
  05/20/25
Okay but when I think of things that would make russia stron...
exciting kitty cruise ship
  05/20/25
Ukraine was kept poor and outside of NATO precisely so that ...
odious underhanded home
  05/20/25
TMF still thinks trading 1000 soldiers per km2 of land is wo...
big ivory circlehead
  05/20/25
What's your opinion on that RSF?
odious underhanded home
  05/20/25
Seem to be some pretty clear differences. eg, Vietnam was a ...
crystalline thriller hominid stock car
  05/20/25
what’s the purpose of this war?
big ivory circlehead
  05/20/25
We had less than 1/20th of the losses in Vietnam that Russia...
exciting kitty cruise ship
  05/20/25
maybe you should check whether these assumptions you have ar...
crystalline thriller hominid stock car
  05/20/25
We had to resort to forced concription during Vietnam. Russi...
odious underhanded home
  05/20/25


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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: Charismatic khaki associate point

https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/05/19/russia-has-started-losing-the-war-in-ukraine/

Someone do that archive link thingy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945302)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: Arrogant lemon parlor jewess

they "started" losing the war the day the failed to take Kiev (day 1).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945307)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: big ivory circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945321)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:42 PM
Author: glassy windowlicker

well day 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945950)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property

so this will have worked out well for Ukraine after all? Huzzah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945311)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: Emerald Beady-eyed Piazza

Argument

An expert’s point of view on a current event.

Russia Has Started Losing the War in Ukraine

The military tide may have turned against Putin.

By Michael Kimmage, director of the Kennan Institute at the Wilson Center in Washington.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945316)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:43 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

Wow! Big, if true!

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945322)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Balding cuckoldry principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946188)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: crystalline thriller hominid stock car

dumb piece, as you'd expect from The Economist. amusing the goober writing it works at the Kennan Institute - Kennan would sue for defamation if he knew any of these thoughts were being associated with him.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945340)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:51 PM
Author: geriatric brindle juggernaut

Do you suck penises?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945344)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:58 PM
Author: crystalline thriller hominid stock car

i mean, we all have a price



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945463)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: Charismatic khaki associate point

Here's the full article:

https://archive.ph/ROP3y

I think the worst thing for Russia is Ukraine's home grown drone industry. You can make a shitton of drones for the cost of one HIMARS, and it stimulates Ukraine's economy to boot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945350)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

Bro they busted up Ukraine's fancy spy drone network last week. They were supposed to move after that but didn't, cuz they got no mojo. If you want to tell me Russian troops are motivated and only drones are holding them back, go ahead though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945362)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

CR

When you REALLY think about it, this war is not only getting better and better for Ukraine as time goes on, but it's actually becoming quite cheap for Ukraine to defend itself -- AND the expenses it's incurring to do so are actually stimulating it's economy. Meanwhile, Russia is getting rekt and falling further and further into ruin with every passing day.

... frankly it's a little bit "odd" that Zelenskyieve would even consider holding peace negotiations with Putin at this point, considering how well everything is trending for him, but I'm sure he has his reasons haha yeah haha. ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945363)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: Violent space son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945418)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:38 PM
Author: big ivory circlehead

cr it would be much better for Ukraine to end the war by… handing over 70% of their country to russia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945433)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

Well I would assume, given that when you REALLY think about it things are actually going pretty great for Ukraine right now on a bunch of different levels, that any peace proposal in which Zelenskieyve is required to cede any substantial amount of physical territory to Russia will be a non-starter. Why would a party negotiating from a position of relative strength which is only increasing with time ever agree to terms like that? It wouldn't make sense at all.

Do you agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945547)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:57 PM
Author: copper frum locus patrolman

God the cope never ends holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945352)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 5:58 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

I called it days ago. It's May and they got no mojo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945356)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:04 PM
Author: Charismatic khaki associate point

Yeah, normally this time of year Ukrainian and Western intel are warning of some huge Russian offensive in the works. Not hearing anything like that this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945371)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

It would cost the lives of many men who have already served multiple continuous tours. Not only would he be losing those bros, it would destroy morale in the lower ranks. It makes more sense for Russia to dig trenches and make Ukraine shoot off all their French and German missiles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945378)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:16 PM
Author: Titillating Nowag

All of the major offensives have been horrific failures. They’re going to continue with the meat waves on motorcycles. They can inch forward and it gives the illusion of progress. I think the bigger factor is oil prices. If they’re this low for another 6-12 months Russia’s ability to sustain the war ends. Ironically trump’s tariff bullshit may have unintentionally buttfucked Putin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945397)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: autistic trip cuckold

How is that ironic. Are you implying trump Colludes with Russia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946204)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:22 AM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

Yes, despite being unironically literally thoroughly debunked at the highest levels, that "Russia Collusion" narrative still remains an article of faith among many on the Left in 2025.

Yes that's right -- the very same people who will scream at you until they're blue in the face about "total fucking idiots" who "mindlessly swallow misinformation just because it fits their worldview."

Also the very same polisci geniuses who just got their shit pushed in at every level in the last federal election, and have responded to that humiliating loss by... doubling and tripling down on the incredibly unpopular policies and positions that got thoroughly repudiated by the electorate, and angrily smearing anyone who dares to disagree with them as an "idiot" or a "bigot."

Yep, those guys.

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946281)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: medicated reading party

Is Putin even going to see July?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945403)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:30 PM
Author: Violent space son of senegal

Many foreign policy experts are saying NO!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945421)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

His replacement is going to be a ballbreaker. Putin is the most pro-west guy in the Kremlin and he never served in the military.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945426)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: crystalline thriller hominid stock car

no, he is expected to finally reach end stage Parkinsons around June 29th



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945469)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: insanely creepy learning disabled brethren

If his diarrhea inducing chemo doesn't get him first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945474)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:46 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

The real tragedy isn't that Putler's late stage Alzheimer's Brain Cancer is finally catching up to him... it's that Russia is apparently entirely out of bullets at this point, which means he won't even be able to shotgun himself and end the misery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945551)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Balding cuckoldry principal's office

lolz, this again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946190)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: Histrionic chest-beating menage

they have to be almost out of shells by now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945475)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: geriatric brindle juggernaut

This seems like a conclusion in search of evidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945490)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: sooty supple volcanic crater



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

Putin already said they can do war for 20 years if they need to. He said told Ukrainian negotiators Russia spent at least that long defeating Sweden. People who laugh at that don't know what he's talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945503)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Balding cuckoldry principal's office



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Date: May 19th, 2025 7:24 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

Trump moving on Putin like a bitch:

https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1924584531882864731

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945514)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:42 PM
Author: Yellow swashbuckling athletic conference stage

"Its failure has been accompanied by enormous losses: an estimated 790,000 killed or injured since the beginning of the war (plus 48,000 missing), including more than 100,000 casualties this year alone. By the end of 2025, at this rate, Russia will have over a million casualties, and its strategic situation will not be any better than it was in 2022."

What an estimate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945947)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:43 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

"Casualties" includes bruised elbows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945952)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:56 PM
Author: Irradiated hunting ground gas station

The coverage of this war is so frustrating.

This article is mostly true - but it doesn't really touch on Ukraine's position.

Isn't Ukraine basically out of men? Seems like that's a relevant counterpoint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48945977)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:08 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

*(((GAY JEWISH AMERICAN MSM NEWS OUTLET))) SHOTGUNS DOWN YOUR DOOR*

"Hey, you! Did you know that Russia has lost 800,000+ men so far in this war?! Probably more, to be honest... anyway, it's a total fucking bloodbath and an absolute disaster for them!!! They're megafukt!!!"

"Wow, yeah, I mean that seems like a ton of guys... btw how many Ukrainians have been killed so far?"

"Well you have to understand that it's very hard if not impossible to generate an accurate count for that sort of thing, due to 'the fog of war,' etc. In fact it's so difficult that we really don't want to speculate and throw out a number."

"No, I mean, OK, sure I get that -- but you rushed in here to give me a number for Russia, so idk just give me your best guess for Ukraine, too. If you *had* to make an educated guess. It seems very relevant."

"We don't want to speculate!"

"Just speculate. Go ahead. You shotgunned down my door to come lecture me about this, so I insist. Do it."

"Hmmm... OK, but just bear in mind, this is very imprecise and quite possibly inflated. If forced to guess, we would estimate ~30,000 Ukrainian casualties so far."

"Wait... seriously? You're telling me that you want me to believe that the Russians have been taking casualties at a fucking ~26:1 ratio for the last three years straight?! That sounds absolutely insane!"

"Yes."

"Uh, I mean... and wait, isn't the typical 'rule of thumb' that an invading army should anticipate taking losses at a ~3:1 ratio when drawing up their battle plans?"

"Yes."

"So you're saying that Russia is literally performing 8x worse than we might expect in a 'generic' war? That the casualty ratio in this war is a wild statistical outlier on an exponential level, even though this war features two Slav countries fighting each other (so little to no IQ disparity between the two fighting forces) and Russia is actually richer, more populated, and more militarily powerful than Ukraine... so if anything, taking those factors into account, we might logically expect that Russia would actually perform *better* than if it were merely fighting a 'generic' war in which it didn't necessarily hold all of those advantages over its opponent?"

"Yes."

"..."

"...hey, so anyway, did you know that Joe Biden has CANCER and Blondalf Drumpfth SAID A REALLY MEAN THING ABOUT HIM?!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946003)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:10 PM
Author: glassy windowlicker

Off your meds again Claire?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946007)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

Haha yeah I'm retarded and crazy

Btw which part of that fun little "crazy made up strawman" MSM narrative that I just typed out there in my insane delusions do you dispute is an actual talking point being pushed in the American MSM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946013)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:14 PM
Author: glassy windowlicker

Oh man! You are so red-pilled. Really got that SECRET knowledge. Total GNOSTIC Masterman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946020)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:16 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

Yeah, I'm retarded + insane + stupid + poor etc etc etc, we know and also I'm gay and my name is Anthony "Tony" J. Zappin and I don't see my kids and I lost my law license, etc. Sad!

...but so which part(s) of my poast above do you dispute, though? We get it, I'm a complete faggot and a fool, but having gotten the obligatory ad hominems out of the way I don't see you actually attempting to substantively refute any of the allegations I'm making about the various ridiculous talking points the American MSM has been pushing about this war. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946025)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property

I don't see why you being a faggot has to get in the way of this whole thing being a disaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946028)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:21 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

CR

Wait but so which of the fake and gay imaginary strawmen MSM talking points that I clearly just hallucinated above do *you* claim that the American MSM hasn't actually been pushing?

(Assume before you answer that I have multiple links ready to drop that show MSM news sources pushing each and every one of them)

Or perhaps you just sincerely believe that Russia has indeed been taking ~26:1 casualties in this war for the last three years running?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946033)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:43 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946090)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property

what part of me thinking eveything is fake and gay do you not understand, we've known each other for almost 20 years at this point you enormous homo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946105)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

I'm gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946106)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: Rusted Comical Love Of Her Life Property

well duh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946108)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:08 PM
Author: deep stimulating goal in life resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946144)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:43 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946091)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: glassy windowlicker

you write like an unhinged 35yr old unemployed loser who spends 15 hours a day "going down the rabbit hole" / raging online.

I know you've been disbarred but try to be cogent and avoid insane screed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946518)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: exhilarant unholy theatre candlestick maker

To be fair,

CR I'm the absolute worst and frankly I should kill myself.

BTW which of the patently absurd alleged "MSM talking points" that I clearly just invented above for my screed do you think the (((American MSM))) *hasn't* actually pushed?

Can you identify any of those with specificity, now that we've established for the 100000th time that I suck shit and I'm a terrible retard, etc etc etc?

It's weird, this subthread is filling up with people who are jumping in to remind everyone that I'm a fag and an idiot who is wrong about everything etc... but no one has attempted to substantively dispute even a single one of the actual points that I raised above in my "unhinged" screed.

Odd case! Maybe you can be the first? :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48947637)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

Kiev can't be flipped politically unless Russia inflicts massive civilian casualties, and that should always be Plan B. Plan A has to be some kind of ground invasion, and that requires well trained men to march forward.

That's exactly what the USA lacked in Vietnam. Men just didn't want to go walking in the jungle at all, and no one could make them do it without getting shot to death. Fortunately, Russian troops aren't deployed on a far away continent. It's easy to rotate them in and out, the terrain is familiar, language is the same etc. They just need like 6 months of R&R before they'll push.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946031)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Balding cuckoldry principal's office

"Kiev can't be flipped politically"

What does that even mean in a country with no elections?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946193)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:23 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

Ceausescu the POTUS because he's a fuckup, go on TV and say "fuck it, lets the get power turned back on and grow cabbage again," see if anyone complains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946196)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

ROFL@ shitcons believing EVERYTHING Putin says. Never change:

https://x.com/vanguardintel/status/1924581157598822619

This is how Putin buys some R&R time. Make Ukraine confused for a month at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946110)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: Balding cuckoldry principal's office

You realize that Russia advances daily, right? It isn't like there is a ceasefire in effect right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946195)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:27 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

The advances are having no strategic effect, unless Russia is trying to prove it still has men willing to push the line. Ukraine hasn't had men like that since they rolled out the Leopards in spring 2023, so maybe the point is to show balls. But otherwise they need to come up with an actual strategy. There are like 3 that could work if they had 6 months to prepare. They should really just hold the line while pretending to negotiate and buying time. If they have to show off a big missile that's a different story, depending on what it is. The Oreshnik thing might need to be demonstrated on its own timeline, separate from all of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946202)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:33 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

Another thing is that they are shooting down F-16s and wrecking Ukraine's ISR drone network. Russia is having more success in those domains than on the ground. They only fucked up the surveillance drone network about a week ago. They can get these big wins without moving an inch it seems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946212)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:37 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

This is the thing that Russia just wrecked.

https://x.com/GrandpaRoy2/status/1896679474470789378

That was a big problem until they somehow hacked the network, which was distributed among 3 or 4 servers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946214)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

Looks like things started going to shit around May 10.

https://x.com/RALee85/status/1921674352744886419

It must be easy af for Russia to bribe these guys if Zelensky won't pay them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946216)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:38 AM
Author: exciting kitty cruise ship

In what way is this NOT a vietnam- or afghanistan- (their war or ours) like quagmire for russia? And I say that with the understanding that it's apparently not a big deal culturally or politically for them to lose over a million young men--so just thinking of the economic impact (which is not offset at all by the acquisition of the 2nd or 3rd poorest country in europe). They went from US-level interest rates to like 22% now.

The response ITT seems to focus on how it's going even worse for ukraine, which seems totally irrelevant to any conversation worth having in the US--like surveying a termite treatment for your house that left 10% of the termites uneradicated and saying "well lol we killed 90% of them so this went way worse for the termites than us."

I assume the TBF types will now disclaim this (likely in a flamingly homosexually catty sarcastic rant about the unreliability of any sources I could point to), but there were perfectly reputable, credentialed, and impartial defense experts who predicted that russia could wrap this thing up within months of the invasion, and that has obviously not been the result obtained.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946299)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:44 AM
Author: odious underhanded home

They're not deployed across the earth. They have literal rail lines running into Ukraine. God damn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946310)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:57 AM
Author: exciting kitty cruise ship

(1) I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence on an issue where I'm certainly no MFE and don't even really gaf (I am in the vanishingly rare category of ppl who initially opposed heavy ukraine support and now think it's working out pretty well for American interests), but you do realize the USSR had a (long, passable) border with afghanistan, right? I'm sure it wasn't innervated with transportation infrastructure like the RUS-UKR border, because why the fuck would it be (there's nothing worth transporting to/from afghanistan), but that was in fact a land invasion.

(2) And more importantly: so the fuck what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946325)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 1:01 AM
Author: odious underhanded home

Sorry, it was less of a comment about you than the fact that I'm still pissed about Vietnam. We had legit good soldiers over there, way better than what Russia's got. But they were hell and gone from home and that's not sustainable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946331)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 1:05 AM
Author: odious underhanded home

For one thing, Ukraine can't fight any sort of irregular warfare. They don't know the terrain any better than Russia, and in some cases they know it worse because Russians built the tunnels and mines. They can't get behind enemy lines and fuck shit up because they don't have motivated partisans. Everyone in Russian-occupied territory is happy to have russians there and won't take risks for Zelenskyy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946334)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 1:06 AM
Author: Balding cuckoldry principal's office

Simple. Vietnam and Afghanistan were wars in faraway places that no one had any interest in annexing. None of that is true here. Every square kilometer of land is added to Russian territory. Staying in Vietnam or Afghanistan for 20 years even if the "allied government" holds or gains ground doesn't really matter for US (or Soviet) citizens. Gaining or holding in Ukraine matters for actual Russians because that's a gain or loss of Russian territory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946337)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: exciting kitty cruise ship

Okay but when I think of things that would make russia stronger, "more low-yield farmland" and "more natural resources" aren't on the list. They've got plenty of that shit already; their problem is that the only things made in russia in any of the homes I own are in the liquor cabinets.

Let's assume this works out fine for putin, personally--he stays super-popular and public support for the war is high. So what? It objectively weakens RUS, and the US death toll in this conflict remains steady at zero (0).

This has obviously not been a model for a subsequent invasion of poland (as some hysterical libs predicted in 2022, assuming a quick RUS victory in UKR), which would at least be a positive-value pickup.

And I don't know that I agree that the US would have benefitted from Vietnam x20 losses if only we'd been fighting to annex the southern third of manitoba instead of trying to contain communism abroad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946384)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 4:24 AM
Author: odious underhanded home

Ukraine was kept poor and outside of NATO precisely so that it could be used as a front org for the CIA. It effectively operated outside international law, and its territorial claim to Crimea is its own rabbit hole. As much as anything it was a way to spy on Russia and try to undermine it, and the way the government treated ethnic Russians showed its intent to remain that way forever. Ukrainian "nationalism" was a way of making the threat clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946445)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 4:15 AM
Author: big ivory circlehead

TMF still thinks trading 1000 soldiers per km2 of land is worth it for the country that controls 1/6 of the land surface of the planet already and which has massive demographic problems

would be funny if not so stupid and sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946443)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: odious underhanded home

What's your opinion on that RSF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946891)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: crystalline thriller hominid stock car

Seem to be some pretty clear differences. eg, Vietnam was a war on this scale, but based on conscription and fought for no clear American interests.

As far as wars with a purpose go, this is pretty painless for Russia.

Put it against the cost of the US Civil War and it seems like noise.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48946873)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: big ivory circlehead

what’s the purpose of this war?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48947851)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: exciting kitty cruise ship

We had less than 1/20th of the losses in Vietnam that Russia will end up having in this war under the most optimistic outside measures.

I guess I agree this will be relatively painless for Russia as compared to what the American Civil War was for us. And relative to the K-Pg Event, it's a goddamn period of human prosperity!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48948487)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: crystalline thriller hominid stock car

maybe you should check whether these assumptions you have are really really dumb, then the situation on the ground might start to make more sense to you



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48948505)



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Date: May 20th, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: odious underhanded home

We had to resort to forced concription during Vietnam. Russia has not. Even the prisoners who fought for Wagner were given the option of staying in jail. There's a huge difference in baseline morale between conscripts and volunteers, and Ukraine has not killed enough Russians to reduce their morale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5727429&forum_id=2).#48948662)