(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48968312)

“Bulgarian is just a dialect of russian!”

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your family is Jewish from Kharkiv and emigrated pre-soviet collapse. Nevertheless, when it fits whatever gay little troll point you want to make, you’ll claim to be Russian or Ukrainian.

Now, because it fits your argument, you have Ukrainian family, who you’ve always maintained speaks exclusively Russian, and therefore you have special first hand knowledge of speaking both Russian and Ukrainian.

Listen, my wife was born in Lviv and lived the first 8 years of her life there. Surely, you’ll agree that Lviv contains probably the largest population of Ukrainian speakers on earth. In the US, at home, they spoke exclusively Ukrainian.

She absolutely does not perfectly understand Russian and absolutely does not speak Russian.

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I would agree that Lvov is definitely the part of Ukraine where speaking Ukrainian is the most common. Nevertheless, most people in Lvov also understand Russian. Did she leave when she was 5 or something?

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I know Kharkiv and Odessa traditionally are primarily Russian speaking. Again that has nothing to do with any of the points I made.

Of course people who grew up in Lviv know Russian. Everyone in Ukraine knows Russian because they were forced to learn it. Again, that has no relevance to this subthread.

The effectiveness of this particular line of Russian propaganda has been completely obliterated. It's about as useful as claiming Arabs hate democracy and freedom in 2025.

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"The effectiveness of this particular line of Russian propaganda has been completely obliterated. It's about as useful as claiming Arabs hate democracy and freedom in 2025."

You're too old to behave like this. No one cares about our stupid XO discussion. I'm not conveying some super important Kremlin propaganda that will ultimately decide the future of Ukraine but rather stating reality which you don't even disagree with. You're just pissed that I don't politically agree with you on Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48969537)

I could play the same game as you and just call you short to win every argument.

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nothing written in russian negates that

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1) im lying

2) my friend (and his family) are idiots that didnt learn their native tongue

3) your visit to ukraine doesnt make you an expert on ukranian versus russian languages

considered there are two poasters with ukranian family itt that will agree with me, perhaps its "bizarre" because your language expertise isnt what you estimate it to be

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Here's the deal with Crimea - it is VERY Russian (more Russian than much of Russia). There are people in Russia who don't speak Russian for a variety of reasons. There are ethnic minorities there too (Crimean Tatars for example). It is possible that there is a tiny village where everyone speaks Ukrainian though again, Ukrainian and Russian are VERY close any generally mutually intelligible. It is also possible that what he calls Ukrainian is actually Surzhyk (an even more Russian version of Ukrainian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk

But again, it is very strange. I'm not calling you a liar or him a liar or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48968754)

Ukr/ru are less similar than Spanish/Portuguese

but keep acting like they are the same you dipshit

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Ukrainian is a fake identity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48973567)

But what did he speak at home? For example, Crimean Tatars speak their own language that really is very different than either Russian or Ukrainian (it isn't a Slavic language at all).

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lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48970217)

same goes for russian speakers not from Ukraine listening to Ukrainian. they’re lucky to understand 30-40%

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Do you know how I learned Ukrainian? There was a guy in our Kiev office who natively spoke Ukrainian and asked if I minded if he spoke Ukrainian and said he'll just speak more slowly for a few days and once my mind adapts I'll be able to understand him. It worked perfectly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48970719)

Edit: Does your wife also not speak Ukrainian? She could easily teach you if she does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48971871)

You're an excellent father, a great husband, and a true friend. Shalom aleichem.

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That will obviously go away.

an average colombian does not understand portuguese. he could go live there and pick it up quicker than a chinaman but he's not able to sit and watch the news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730177&forum_id=2).#48974145)

And as to this going away, seems likely only for diaspora.

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