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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: mahogany resort Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: Cracking green hall affirmative action “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Hairless orchid stag film As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: 180 ivory coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253586) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM Author: 180 ivory coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43955228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Bonkers market jap they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252972) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: Garnet Garrison Idea He Suggested oh we got a legal expert here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231415) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: mahogany resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43955203) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: boner police?s buttondick ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#49178217) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: balding dog poop they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: 180 ivory coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253066) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Motley flickering school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253623) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: balding dog poop 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: sadistic hyperventilating library rigpig goes a long way in shaker heights (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252989) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Mad-dog Skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253024) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: 180 ivory coldplay fan Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Supple Black Famous Landscape Painting Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: buck-toothed lilac native How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: bull headed dilemma It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Bonkers market jap they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253002) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: bull headed dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253708) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: mahogany resort is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231447) |
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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: mahogany resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#48564541) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Avocado codepig state omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: mahogany resort For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: Slap-happy histrionic university p depressing news going into the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253537) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: mahogany resort Eat my dick nigger lover (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253786) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: Slap-happy histrionic university your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254215) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: mahogany resort Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254517) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: mahogany resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36256523) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: mahogany resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36743851) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: floppy amber mental disorder laser beams yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: slimy idiot base To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: mahogany resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933386) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM Author: mentally impaired yapping ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933826) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: Motley flickering school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949789) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: mahogany resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: twinkling appetizing abode I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: Kink-friendly halford holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: mahogany resort or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: Razzmatazz Stage Blood Rage Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: mahogany resort it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: Razzmatazz Stage Blood Rage That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: mahogany resort i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: carmine office partner They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: mentally impaired yapping ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933950) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: twinkling appetizing abode No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: carmine office partner Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM Author: Passionate deranged tanning salon useless brakes Better partnership odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: carmine office partner That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: Passionate deranged tanning salon useless brakes Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936043) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM Author: Contagious pervert lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935828) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: Milky rebellious ladyboy how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949811) |
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