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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
buck-toothed sepia lay new version
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Chartreuse puppy jewess
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
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  06/15/18
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  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
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  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
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mahogany filthy spot wagecucks
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
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  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
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  06/15/18
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sable institution
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
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  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Misunderstood range tattoo
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Ocher dashing kitty cat
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Abusive vibrant menage quadroon
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Charismatic bat shit crazy library
  06/15/18
sounds 180
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henna house-broken main people meetinghouse
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
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  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Razzle station rigor
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
buck-toothed sepia lay new version
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Frum Reading Party
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
buck-toothed sepia lay new version
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
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Explain
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henna house-broken main people meetinghouse
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Sick immigrant
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
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buck-toothed sepia lay new version
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
titillating chrome generalized bond space
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Mischievous place of business nursing home
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
buck-toothed sepia lay new version
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Bateful insecure sanctuary
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
buck-toothed sepia lay new version
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Bateful insecure sanctuary
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
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They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
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  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
titillating chrome generalized bond space
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Crusty Balding Karate Old Irish Cottage
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
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  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
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  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Arousing Windowlicker
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Mischievous place of business nursing home
  02/12/21
lol no
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how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
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that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Chartreuse puppy jewess

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: aphrodisiac kitty

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Cobalt trailer park boltzmann



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Cobalt trailer park boltzmann



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Charismatic bat shit crazy library

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Comical disgusting tanning salon cumskin

oh we got a legal expert here

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: vermilion mind-boggling newt feces

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Cobalt trailer park boltzmann



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: mahogany filthy spot wagecucks



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: vermilion mind-boggling newt feces

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: shimmering lascivious state partner

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: sable institution



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Cobalt trailer park boltzmann

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Misunderstood range tattoo

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Ocher dashing kitty cat

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Abusive vibrant menage quadroon

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Charismatic bat shit crazy library

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: vermilion mind-boggling newt feces

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: sable institution



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: mahogany filthy spot wagecucks



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Smoky drunken macaca clown

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Cobalt trailer park boltzmann



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: aphrodisiac kitty



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: mahogany filthy spot wagecucks



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: mahogany filthy spot wagecucks

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Abusive vibrant menage quadroon



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Razzle station rigor

omg 260k where do they get off

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Frum Reading Party

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Frum Reading Party

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: henna house-broken main people meetinghouse



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Sick immigrant

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Cerebral offensive step-uncle's house legal warrant

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: iridescent razzmatazz location



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: mahogany filthy spot wagecucks



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: titillating chrome generalized bond space

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Mischievous place of business nursing home

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Bateful insecure sanctuary

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Bateful insecure sanctuary

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Crusty Balding Karate Old Irish Cottage

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: iridescent razzmatazz location



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: titillating chrome generalized bond space

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Crusty Balding Karate Old Irish Cottage

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Arousing Windowlicker

Better partnership odds

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Crusty Balding Karate Old Irish Cottage

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Arousing Windowlicker

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Mischievous place of business nursing home

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: lavender diverse cruise ship nowag

lol no

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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Spectacular fighting french chef dilemma

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: excitant plaza



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Peach School Travel Guidebook

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: buck-toothed sepia lay new version



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