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Ismail (first safavid shah) started leading his army into iran at age 12

he was also an actual IRL warrior poet: "Ismail us...
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charcoal house-broken dilemma
  06/29/26
in the us, they call that "gay" luis
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talking carnelian senate
  06/29/26
what exactly is his ethnicity - azeri ?
Mischievous diverse brethren
  06/29/26
IIRC the scholarly consensus on that is that his family's ro...
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Date: June 29th, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: Twinkling Market Boiling Water

he was also an actual IRL warrior poet:

"Ismail used his 13th birthday to cement his spiritual authority over these battle-hardened men. Under his pen name Khatai, he composed and recited passionate, rhythmic war poetry. He walked among the tribal campfires, chanting verses that promised divine victory, cosmic justice, and martyrdom to anyone who fought by his side. Hearing a 13-year-old boy speak with such absolute, fearless conviction completely electrified the troops."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878322&forum_id=2).#49969230)



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Date: June 29th, 2026 3:09 PM
Author: Twinkling Market Boiling Water



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Date: June 29th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: charcoal house-broken dilemma

Im gay

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Date: June 29th, 2026 4:00 PM
Author: talking carnelian senate

in the us, they call that "gay" luis

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Date: June 29th, 2026 4:55 PM
Author: Twinkling Market Boiling Water



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Date: June 29th, 2026 5:00 PM
Author: talking carnelian senate

its demon whores and scammy plantation owners all the way down

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Date: June 29th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: Mischievous diverse brethren

what exactly is his ethnicity - azeri ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878322&forum_id=2).#49969630)



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Date: June 29th, 2026 6:19 PM
Author: Twinkling Market Boiling Water

IIRC the scholarly consensus on that is that his family's roots were likely Kurdish, but at some point his family settled in Azerbaijan and became culturally Turkified.

edit: i looked it up to confirm and it appears there was a lot of intermarriage for political alliances too after they settled in Azerbaijan, so it's not as clear as i thought: "safavid family frequently intermarried with Turkoman nobility (including the ruling Aq Qoyunlu dynasty), as well as Georgian, Circassian, and Pontic Greek families"

the safavid court language was turkish for the most of the 16th century but eventually became persian under Shah Abbas I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878322&forum_id=2).#49969643)