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So we're all agreed that victory for Russia = Kiev or Odessa?

While Russiamos and Ukrainemos can’t agree about much ...
Sooty bat shit crazy boiling water site
  03/28/24
Odessa is more critical than Kiev for Russia. I would say th...
Khaki bawdyhouse
  03/28/24
Why do you get to decide what victory is for Russia?
heady native antidepressant drug
  03/28/24
To be fair, I think "if Russia doesn't take Odessa then...
Khaki bawdyhouse
  03/28/24
TMF, I’m glad you agree that russia will never win thi...
Charlie Kirk Did Nothing Wrong
  10/23/25
Not what I said. They will take Odessa before this is over.
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  10/23/25
there is zero chance russia takes either of those cities ...
beta cruise ship
  03/28/24
To be fair, CR, this war is over. Has been for years, in ...
Domesticated coldplay fan circlehead
  03/28/24
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.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  10/23/25


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Date: March 28th, 2024 1:21 PM
Author: Sooty bat shit crazy boiling water site

While Russiamos and Ukrainemos can’t agree about much in this war, we do seem to agree on one thing: Russia’s victory scenario depends on taking Kiev or Odessa (either one will do), and simply taking the Russian-speaking areas of eastern Ukraine would be an ambiguous result which is not a clear victory for either side.

I don’t want to see the goalposts shifted by Russiamos if and when the end result is just a cease fire with Kiev and Odessa in Ukrainian hands.

So we're all agreed?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#47534898)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 1:35 PM
Author: Khaki bawdyhouse

Odessa is more critical than Kiev for Russia. I would say that they can't really declare a full victory if Odessa is in Ukrainian hands. That's true even if they took Kiev.

So my full victory condition is more strict than yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#47534917)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: heady native antidepressant drug

Why do you get to decide what victory is for Russia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#47534920)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 4:05 PM
Author: Khaki bawdyhouse

To be fair, I think "if Russia doesn't take Odessa then it isn't a total win" is pretty common thinking among Russians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#47535004)



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Date: October 23rd, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Charlie Kirk Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

TMF, I’m glad you agree that russia will never win this war 👍

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#49368919)



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Date: October 23rd, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Not what I said. They will take Odessa before this is over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#49368921)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 4:10 PM
Author: beta cruise ship

there is zero chance russia takes either of those cities

russia lost this war back in March 2022

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#47535015)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 4:12 PM
Author: Domesticated coldplay fan circlehead

To be fair,

CR, this war is over. Has been for years, in fact. Russia lost. Sorry, Putintards -- deal with it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510457&forum_id=2).#47535018)



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Date: October 23rd, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.




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