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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Twinkling Plaza
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
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  03/19/18
it's despicable
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  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
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  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
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  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Twinkling Plaza
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
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  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
cordovan church
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
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  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
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Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Twinkling Plaza
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
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  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
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The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
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This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
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Very TTT. But who's going to check?
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Know-it-all Black School

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Costumed bateful sweet tailpipe hall

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Coral legal warrant turdskin

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: diverse stead cuck



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Fragrant narrow-minded famous landscape painting



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Coral legal warrant turdskin



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: racy whorehouse

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Coral legal warrant turdskin



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Chartreuse Jewess



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Coral legal warrant turdskin

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Obsidian milk

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Floppy persian



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Charismatic area



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Floppy persian



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: concupiscible spot striped hyena



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Dashing Boiling Water Hospital

Is this flame

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Razzle chad weed whacker

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: multi-colored site new version

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Overrated Casino

cr, huge patent prole tell

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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Obsidian milk



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: chestnut painfully honest gunner

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: bossy heaven dopamine

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: bossy heaven dopamine

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: cordovan church

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Coral legal warrant turdskin

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: exciting dilemma

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Dashing Boiling Water Hospital

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Coral legal warrant turdskin



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Know-it-all Black School

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Avocado Motley Cruise Ship Potus

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Know-it-all Black School

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Twinkling Plaza

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Know-it-all Black School

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: cordovan church

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Obsidian milk

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: cordovan church

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Obsidian milk

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: cordovan church



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: exciting dilemma

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Avocado Motley Cruise Ship Potus

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: cordovan church



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: cordovan church

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Big scourge upon the earth people who are hurt

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Mewling bright crotch

killself

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Gold Orchestra Pit

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Adulterous range faggot firefighter

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: green 180 doctorate

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: glittery stag film kitty cat

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: bossy heaven dopamine

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: talented sanctuary

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050530)