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Best exit option for burned out solo lawmo?

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't w...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
Sad
Rose crusty keepsake machete persian
  01/09/23
Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn...
Sepia nursing home sweet tailpipe
  01/09/23
Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely. Sick of...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more a...
Sepia nursing home sweet tailpipe
  01/09/23
Most important part of being a solo is doing constant busine...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision ...
Sepia nursing home sweet tailpipe
  01/09/23
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  01/10/23
Suck dick, maybe? At your age, you probably won't be abl...
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  01/09/23
Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find ma...
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  01/09/23
lol need to make 200k
scarlet impressive generalized bond idea he suggested
  01/09/23
I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be h...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
what figure wouldn't make you lol
vengeful office
  01/09/23
not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring...
scarlet impressive generalized bond idea he suggested
  01/09/23
I'm not opposed to sales at all. How hard is it to break...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
what clique are you?
Contagious Federal Hall Pistol
  01/10/23
Scumbag TBH
magenta marvelous stage
  01/11/23
I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make e...
buck-toothed razzle sanctuary
  01/09/23
Yup
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted ...
Orange round eye university
  01/09/23
feel like i wrote your post. it bewilders me that, someho...
scarlet impressive generalized bond idea he suggested
  01/09/23
I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that t...
buck-toothed razzle sanctuary
  01/09/23
That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every...
histrionic saffron roommate stock car
  01/10/23
You are both describing my life, too. Over the holidays I...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
Literally just had this happen.
histrionic saffron roommate stock car
  01/10/23
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histrionic saffron roommate stock car
  01/10/23
Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to li...
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  01/10/23
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  01/10/23
https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp...
Crawly emerald cruise ship stain
  01/09/23
You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former...
Indigo police squad principal's office
  01/09/23
$200k is not that much any more.
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.
Indigo police squad principal's office
  01/09/23
You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpref...
Cyan Pea-brained Base Toaster
  01/10/23
age / nw?
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  01/09/23
window
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Clear provocative place of business
  01/10/23
I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ev...
dun voyeur
  01/09/23
It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-h...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
Work the front desk at a hotel
Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault
  01/09/23
My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show an...
magenta marvelous stage
  01/09/23
Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?
Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault
  01/09/23
JD opens a lot of doors
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cannon
  09/01/25
I think you have a good thing going and should probably appr...
dun voyeur
  01/09/23
You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wa...
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  01/09/23
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Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault
  01/09/23
All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to l...
dun voyeur
  01/09/23
weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but...
White philosopher-king brunch
  01/09/23
It's all $hit :)?
Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault
  01/09/23
It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.
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  01/09/23
yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I beco...
White philosopher-king brunch
  01/09/23
I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you...
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lavender arousing meetinghouse
  01/09/23
So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the a...
White philosopher-king brunch
  01/09/23
Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance ...
lavender arousing meetinghouse
  01/09/23
How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical...
White philosopher-king brunch
  01/09/23
I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and ...
lavender arousing meetinghouse
  01/09/23
can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from lit...
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  01/09/23
Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventua...
lavender arousing meetinghouse
  01/10/23
Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doin...
kink-friendly stirring space striped hyena
  01/10/23
Can I take you out to lunch sometime?
Razzmatazz rebellious indian lodge really tough guy
  01/09/23
Sure if you're in LA
lavender arousing meetinghouse
  01/10/23
What floor is your office on?
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cr. pull a Garry Hoy.
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become a Director at F100
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  01/09/23
Solo transactional work instead?
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  01/09/23
Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion
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  09/01/25
I make $75k
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  01/10/23
this is a big improvement brother ur doing great
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  01/10/23
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White philosopher-king brunch
  01/11/23
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  01/09/23
Poast on xo
dark ungodly school
  01/09/23
Move to a farm and raise ducks
Galvanic Garrison
  01/09/23
Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2...
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  01/09/23
Sex with men for money.
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  01/09/23
antidepressants
Flirting immigrant
  01/10/23
Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems s...
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  01/10/23
I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I app...
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  01/11/23
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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:55 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't want to go back to a firm or in-house (even if it was an option).

Need to make at least $200k per year. Any options or am I fucked for life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45764995)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: Rose crusty keepsake machete persian

Sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45764999)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: Sepia nursing home sweet tailpipe

Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn to code maybe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765001)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely.

Sick of arguing and being detail oriented and sitting alone in a room for hours reading documents. Coding seems like the same thing minus arguing, so I don't think it's for me.

I want to get out of the office and talk to people and be social again. Some kind of business development maybe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765042)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:08 PM
Author: Sepia nursing home sweet tailpipe

Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more are generally not offered to burned out self-employed litigators grasping for a career change.

Remove the salary requirement and you might have something to work with here (that could be a path to $200K or better in idk 5 years?)

But if you won’t consider anything less, better fall back in love with litigating and fast. I meant you’ve ruled out everything that’s an actual possibility for you in my earlier post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765070)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

Most important part of being a solo is doing constant business development so it's not a completely unrelated skillset.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765098)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: Sepia nursing home sweet tailpipe

I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision maker hiring for a $200K+ jerb of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765110)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:16 AM
Author: histrionic saffron roommate stock car



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: balding rehab weed whacker

Suck dick, maybe?

At your age, you probably won't be able to demand depending on where you live.

There is nothing else you can do with your age & skillset that commands $200k a year.

Either lower your expectations or learn to deepthroat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765029)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:02 PM
Author: yapping mauve marketing idea

Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find manageable?

How did you get the clients and how much do you bill them at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765038)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: scarlet impressive generalized bond idea he suggested

lol need to make 200k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765041)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be honest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765047)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: vengeful office

what figure wouldn't make you lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765049)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: scarlet impressive generalized bond idea he suggested

not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring zero skills or experience into a 200k+ job that is not SALES

think like the boss. "Hey let me give you 250,000 guaranteed a year, out of our profits, to do....." WHAT? How are you going to earn him $350k+ that year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765097)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

I'm not opposed to sales at all.

How hard is it to break into a decent PETERMAN APPROVED sales job, though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765143)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:57 AM
Author: Contagious Federal Hall Pistol

what clique are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45767551)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

Scumbag TBH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45773259)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: buck-toothed razzle sanctuary

I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make enough money to someday stop working, or collect on that disability or death insurance policy. I don't see how there's any other options here.

It's not all that depressing, my firm is doing well, realistically I can keep this up for about another 15 or so years that should probably do it. It is an awful grind though and I wish I didn't have to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765063)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

Yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765105)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:45 PM
Author: Orange round eye university

my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted problems and drama of absolute proles (even rich ones). Even if its lucrative I do not think I can keep this up for 15-20 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765313)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:05 PM
Author: scarlet impressive generalized bond idea he suggested

feel like i wrote your post.

it bewilders me that, somehow, I ended up with the job of being the go-to guy for retard proles in absolute hair-on-fire crises.

Thats the entirety of my job. Shit exploding in your life and youre manic about it? Call Im Done Here!

How on earth did this happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765412)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:03 PM
Author: buck-toothed razzle sanctuary

I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that the only way out is to be successful and win your way out. CSLG does the same thing we do and you don't hear him complaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765613)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:47 AM
Author: histrionic saffron roommate stock car

That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every aspect of the case beyond intake (more specifically: signing the client) & some negotiations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45767538)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:05 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

You are both describing my life, too.

Over the holidays I had a difficult former client (small business) get a demand letter for some stupid shit they did and they just told the plaintiff's attorney to "send it to quotemo, he's my attorney" even though I'm not and have no interest in taking this case. Of course the plaintiff's attorney started hounding me while I wasted time reminding the client that I'm not their attorney for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765620)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:49 AM
Author: histrionic saffron roommate stock car

Literally just had this happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45767540)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:45 AM
Author: histrionic saffron roommate stock car



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:18 AM
Author: histrionic saffron roommate stock car

Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to literally turn it off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45767514)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:34 AM
Author: Demanding french antidepressant drug temple



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:08 PM
Author: Crawly emerald cruise ship stain

https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp?R_ID=5177241&

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45766741)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:09 PM
Author: Indigo police squad principal's office

You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former lawyer $200k to not practice law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765077)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:11 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

$200k is not that much any more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765102)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:23 PM
Author: Indigo police squad principal's office

It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765201)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:23 AM
Author: Cyan Pea-brained Base Toaster

You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpreferred bs or becoming a project manager. It's all bad tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45767405)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: duck-like chocolate nibblets

age / nw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765109)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: Disgusting comical factory reset button mad cow disease

window

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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:36 AM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:50 PM
Author: Clear provocative place of business



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:31 PM
Author: dun voyeur

I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ever made, like a manna from heaven?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765245)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:33 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-house. I just want to do something else with my life now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765252)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:34 PM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault

Work the front desk at a hotel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765254)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show and it really makes me want to be a doorman at a luxury building, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765260)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault

Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765262)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: scarlet impressive generalized bond idea he suggested

JD opens a lot of doors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765268)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:38 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: dead odious area



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: drab forum dopamine



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:04 PM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:20 PM
Author: Red hyperventilating library



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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:51 PM
Author: Haunting Confused Travel Guidebook Den



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:37 AM
Author: Demanding french antidepressant drug temple



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: cannon



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:36 PM
Author: dun voyeur

I think you have a good thing going and should probably appreciate it. Why not work a little less and be social outside of work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765263)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:39 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wasted years and years of my life doing a job that has been so unsatisfying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765278)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:40 PM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:42 PM
Author: dun voyeur

All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to live our UMC life with a shit job than to be poor.

What you really ought to do instead of scrambling for some entry level sales job is to invest in a business and find people to run it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2).#45765297)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:41 PM
Author: White philosopher-king brunch

weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but I guess the grass is not really greener

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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:43 PM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault

It's all $hit :)?

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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: lavender arousing meetinghouse

It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.

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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:53 PM
Author: White philosopher-king brunch

yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I become a successful solo, ill just get bored of lawshit anyways

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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:12 PM
Author: Razzmatazz rebellious indian lodge really tough guy

I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you are a CSLG type who is literally making millions.

With or without a boss you have the stress of litigation and demands of servicing clients.

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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:57 PM
Author: lavender arousing meetinghouse

-No boss

-No fake emergencies created by your own team

-Ability to decline cases you know will be more stress than they're worth

-You don't have to litigate. I was a litmo and got out of it. Last year I billed ~1000 hours drafting contracts and reviewing the kind of stuff I've reviewed hundreds of times before and took home $350k after expenses. Beats the shit out of being at a firm.

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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:06 PM
Author: White philosopher-king brunch

So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the area after doing lit?

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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:20 PM
Author: lavender arousing meetinghouse

Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance or whatever it's called are very helpful. For stuff I didn't think I could competently figure out at first, I hired contract attorneys and eventually learned how to do what they did.

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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:21 PM
Author: White philosopher-king brunch

How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical law

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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:59 PM
Author: lavender arousing meetinghouse

I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and getting speaking engagements. All my clients come through that.

I think Practical law is like $350/mo for solos.

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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:07 PM
Author: kink-friendly stirring space striped hyena

can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from litigation to a contracts drafting expert as a solo with 'social media presence.' like explain more details of how this works.

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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:10 AM
Author: lavender arousing meetinghouse

Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventually.

Year 1: Still doing lit - a few very small referrals from a friend to get me started, grinding out a year of litigating at ~$250/hr rate. Start writing articles about the area of compliance/consulting/tranny stuff I want to focus on. Get invited to speak at a conference related to that area. Start social media pages. Don't make much money.

Year 2: Still about 80% lit, one solid referral from old firm kept me afloat, but they were psychotic to work for. Rate up to $300. Have a few transactional clients that I use a contract attorney to do all the heavy lifting for. Learning the ropes so to speak. Focus on posting daily social media content related to that practice area. Get lucky that stuff gets reshared by a few big accounts. Net $320k.

Year 3: Maybe about 50% lit now. I understand how to do the "greatest hits" contracts in my practice area that I see over and over again. Use contract attorneys for stuff I don't feel like I can competently figure out. Get better at figuring out what social content gets more reach and engagement. Net $415k thanks to a few lit cases going the right way.

Year 4: Wrap up final lit case. Social/online presence continues to grow and keeps the pipeline full. Rate at $500. Landed some big clients that keep me busy every month. Refer everything lit-related out. Net $350k.

This year: Off to a good start, made $15k so far since Jan 1.

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Date: January 10th, 2023 3:38 PM
Author: kink-friendly stirring space striped hyena

Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doing something very similar as I just left biglaw as a litigator too and getting into an area now as a solo that i previously had little interaction with

would love to know for the social media stuff if you have any resources that you found really great in helping you out

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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: Razzmatazz rebellious indian lodge really tough guy

Can I take you out to lunch sometime?

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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:13 AM
Author: lavender arousing meetinghouse

Sure if you're in LA

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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: vermilion drunken deer antler

What floor is your office on?

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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:47 PM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:03 PM
Author: Vigorous shimmering church sandwich

cr.

pull a Garry Hoy.

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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:48 AM
Author: Vibrant Aqua Psychic Double Fault



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:09 PM
Author: drab forum dopamine



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:53 AM
Author: histrionic saffron roommate stock car



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:08 PM
Author: Indecent Friendly Grandma Trump Supporter

become a Director at F100

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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:14 PM
Author: useless fear-inspiring abode

Solo transactional work instead?

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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: racy state

Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion

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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:23 PM
Author: Exhilarant brindle sex offender

I make $75k

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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:12 AM
Author: flatulent stead brethren



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:38 AM
Author: Demanding french antidepressant drug temple

this is a big improvement brother

ur doing great

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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:44 PM
Author: Exhilarant brindle sex offender

it's a big improvement over delivering cookies, but at this rate I"ll be making 125k when I retire (65k in 2022 dollars)

If it weren't for ethereum I'd be living in a studio apartment

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Date: January 11th, 2023 2:59 PM
Author: White philosopher-king brunch



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:27 PM
Author: Irradiated site milk

Get into construction. You could make manager in 2 years easy, and if you work your ass off, you could make low 100s until then

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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: dark ungodly school

Poast on xo

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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:04 PM
Author: Galvanic Garrison

Move to a farm and raise ducks

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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:10 PM
Author: Puce ratface

Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2-3 years.

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Date: January 9th, 2023 11:26 PM
Author: magical glittery mood hospital

Sex with men for money.

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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:52 PM
Author: Flirting immigrant

antidepressants

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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:57 PM
Author: Topaz Mind-boggling Corner Boistinker

Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems so they can be the business owner and have other grunts deal with the hair-on-fire clients?

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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: magenta marvelous stage

I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I appreciate that you hired an associate but the work product isn't at the same level and we need you to be the one who works with us."



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Date: January 11th, 2023 11:08 AM
Author: White philosopher-king brunch

u need to get into an area with less demadning/ more prole clients

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Date: January 11th, 2023 12:41 PM
Author: magenta marvelous stage



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