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What was the best 2000s and 2010s indie band?

Out of Arcade Fire, The Strokes, The National, White Stripes...
dull potus
  03/19/24
modest mouse by far of that group but their best album came ...
Pale drunken hominid
  03/19/24
My junkie mom and her husband are close friends with the lea...
Painfully honest headpube
  03/19/24
I always thought it was weird as fuck when Johnny Marr joine...
Claret corn cake
  03/19/24
Same here. Guy is a guitar virtuoso and songwriting genius a...
Deep Feces Toilet Seat
  03/19/24
that was surprising at the very least. MM was past their pea...
Pale drunken hominid
  03/19/24
marr's career is confounding. the guy is a truly amazing gui...
Deep Feces Toilet Seat
  03/21/24
cr. the worst of it was "johnny marr and the healers&qu...
Pale drunken hominid
  03/21/24
cr. he's a scumbag from a trailer park. makes for more inter...
Pale drunken hominid
  03/19/24
My fav albums of this genre are Funeral - Arcade Fire Pi...
Primrose elastic band national
  03/19/24
Never could get into that Klaxons album all that much I k...
Nofapping market wrinkle
  03/19/24
which hit? I think the non-singles from the album are actual...
Primrose elastic band national
  03/20/24
In terms of lasting impact: 1. The Killers 2. White ...
spruce karate nursing home
  03/19/24
The Walkmen
Chrome Kink-friendly Cruise Ship Police Squad
  03/19/24
The skints are prob my fav actually. 3 killer albums between...
Primrose elastic band national
  03/19/24
some albums from the 00's 'indie' scene which hold up well: ...
yellow bisexual locus deer antler
  03/19/24
Ghosts of the great highway was under sun kil moon aktually,...
Walnut Piazza Hissy Fit
  03/19/24
Bright Eyes
Claret corn cake
  03/19/24
lol fag
Arousing amber alpha lay
  03/20/24
Muse
alcoholic cuck corner
  03/19/24
Black Keys, Franz Ferdinand
Curious cream new version
  03/19/24
Black Keys I can still get into. Not sure that Franz Ferdina...
Self-centered Hyperactive Double Fault Orchestra Pit
  03/21/24
Interpol gets my vote
aromatic slate hospital
  03/19/24
first album was 180. paul and carlos were actually cool ...
Pale drunken hominid
  03/19/24
same. I never miss their show when they come to town. I'm se...
black circlehead sex offender
  03/19/24
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Sable Titillating Range Mental Disorder
  03/21/24
Animal Collective
nighttime talented philosopher-king
  03/19/24
brother sport is ungnnngnngngh
Walnut Piazza Hissy Fit
  03/19/24
Arcade Fire put on the best three album run The Strokes h...
Nofapping market wrinkle
  03/19/24
there was such an avalanche of so much indie music of high t...
Supple pit pistol
  03/19/24
Lana del Rey Two door cinema club Young the giant Cage th...
Autistic mind-boggling church building generalized bond
  03/20/24
👍
slimy fluffy newt
  03/20/24
The Killers. Done.
Glittery free-loading azn
  03/20/24
not really indie
Claret corn cake
  03/20/24
the Indie Big 3: Wilco, The National, Bon Iver alternates...
Sick plaza
  03/20/24
The Strokes and The Killers are the two best bands.
Turquoise insanely creepy factory reset button
  03/20/24
Aerosmith
Bronze filthpig
  03/20/24
Out of the group OP listed, the White Stripes and it isn't c...
jet-lagged masturbator set
  03/20/24
“Indie” is too broad of a label. At this point i...
diverse degenerate
  03/20/24
Don't mention bloc party pls
Glittery free-loading azn
  03/20/24
indie is a shitty term because it originates from a business...
internet-worthy address water buffalo
  03/20/24
So what? Talking about how indie used to mean “indepen...
diverse degenerate
  03/21/24
Hudson Bell
histrionic slippery incel
  03/20/24
Spoon is by far the best from that era simply because each a...
Arousing amber alpha lay
  03/20/24
and they still do. last couple of records went a more synth/...
internet-worthy address water buffalo
  03/20/24
not seeing much lcd in here. anyway it's probably the stroke...
internet-worthy address water buffalo
  03/20/24
Strokes = the last rock band before everything became &ldquo...
Autistic mind-boggling church building generalized bond
  03/20/24
i don't know, the killers and black keys have been huge for ...
internet-worthy address water buffalo
  03/20/24
The Lumineers /EOT
adventurous wine bawdyhouse
  03/20/24
Cart me off to Williamsburg 2008
Lake Trip Menage
  03/20/24
second Chairlift record
180 Brethren Tanning Salon
  03/20/24
Postal Service
Effete quadroon pervert
  03/20/24
This thread is unearthing long lost memories and playlists a...
Walnut Piazza Hissy Fit
  03/20/24
I still use last.fm
Nofapping market wrinkle
  03/20/24
Are you old enough to have listened to college radio? That&r...
Self-centered Hyperactive Double Fault Orchestra Pit
  03/21/24
Xo has such horrible taste in music unless most of you guys ...
jet-lagged masturbator set
  03/21/24
stfu ZZZ
Arousing amber alpha lay
  03/21/24
im gay
multi-colored brilliant ceo
  03/21/24
I agree with a lot of the suggestions ITT. I'd add The Mount...
cowardly university
  03/21/24
Lot of good stuff itt although there’s some of the ine...
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  03/21/24
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Date: March 19th, 2024 10:46 PM
Author: dull potus

Out of Arcade Fire, The Strokes, The National, White Stripes, Interpol, Vampire Weekend, The Killers, The Shins, Modest Mouse, MGMT, Death Cab…

Who am I forgetting?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47508963)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 10:48 PM
Author: Pale drunken hominid

modest mouse by far of that group but their best album came out in the 90s

brand new also had some very good stuff if you consider them indie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47508967)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:19 PM
Author: Painfully honest headpube

My junkie mom and her husband are close friends with the lead singer of modest mouse. He has a big loft in downtown Portland. I guess he has a pool table that has stacks of hundred dollar bills on it. He'll grab one on his way out the door. He buys people booze but only does heroin himself. I met him once. He seemed incredibly dumb. Laughed at really immature fart type jokes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509058)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:24 PM
Author: Claret corn cake

I always thought it was weird as fuck when Johnny Marr joined Modest Mouse. Like, why??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509071)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:42 PM
Author: Deep Feces Toilet Seat

Same here. Guy is a guitar virtuoso and songwriting genius and he joined MM to play rhythm guitar at a time when they quit doing anything interesting with their music.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509110)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:44 PM
Author: Pale drunken hominid

that was surprising at the very least. MM was past their peak and johnny was pretty old already. i heard recently that marr didnt know them at all and just got a random phone call one day.

they made a good(not great) album together though. better than almost everything else marr's done post smiths imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509112)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 10:37 AM
Author: Deep Feces Toilet Seat

marr's career is confounding. the guy is a truly amazing guitarist and songwriter, at least judging by the smiths' output. and beyond his "side gig" with bernard sumner in electronic, he hasn't done anything worth a shit, certainly not anything even in the same neighborhood as the smiths.

i guess him and that fag morrissey were just a magical duo (not taking anything away from the rhythm section, which was also phenomenal).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512791)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 11:41 AM
Author: Pale drunken hominid

cr. the worst of it was "johnny marr and the healers" which sounded like bad oasis 5 years after oasis knockoffs went out of style

smiths were 180 rip andy rourke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512969)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:38 PM
Author: Pale drunken hominid

cr. he's a scumbag from a trailer park. makes for more interesting songs than the "indie" made by theater kids and art fag types imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509102)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 10:49 PM
Author: Primrose elastic band national

My fav albums of this genre are

Funeral - Arcade Fire

Pieces of the People we Love - the Rapture

Myths of the Near Future - Klaxons



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47508968)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:28 PM
Author: Nofapping market wrinkle

Never could get into that Klaxons album all that much

I kinda view them as a one hit wonder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509079)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:02 AM
Author: Primrose elastic band national

which hit? I think the non-singles from the album are actually the best songs.

Totem on the Timeline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwXLjv27PWw

Two Receivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZtLAQFdVvg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509610)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 10:49 PM
Author: spruce karate nursing home

In terms of lasting impact:

1. The Killers

2. White Stripes

3. Death Cab

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47508970)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 10:49 PM
Author: Chrome Kink-friendly Cruise Ship Police Squad

The Walkmen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47508975)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 10:57 PM
Author: Primrose elastic band national

The skints are prob my fav actually. 3 killer albums between 2012-2019. Swimming Lessons in particular is an incredible genre blending album.

https://youtu.be/b5NVWmOKGGw?si=XuwZNMRQgiVQTk7D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509000)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:11 PM
Author: yellow bisexual locus deer antler

some albums from the 00's 'indie' scene which hold up well:

jason molina's 'magnolia electric co.'

calexico's 'feast of wire'

the faint's 'danse macabre'

dismemberment plan's 'change'

justice's cross album

grandaddy's 'sophtware slump'

sweet trip's 'velocity'

mark kozelek's 'ghosts of the great highway'

spoon's 'girls can tell'

richmond fontaine's 'winnemucca'



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509031)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:38 PM
Author: Walnut Piazza Hissy Fit

Ghosts of the great highway was under sun kil moon aktually, not a mark kozelek solo

And yeah it holds up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509103)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:12 PM
Author: Claret corn cake

Bright Eyes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509033)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:54 AM
Author: Arousing amber alpha lay

lol fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509736)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:13 PM
Author: alcoholic cuck corner

Muse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509037)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:13 PM
Author: Curious cream new version

Black Keys, Franz Ferdinand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509039)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 4:38 AM
Author: Self-centered Hyperactive Double Fault Orchestra Pit

Black Keys I can still get into. Not sure that Franz Ferdinand really holds up. I’ve tried to listen to their albums recently and make it through half a song and get bored.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512376)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:16 PM
Author: aromatic slate hospital

Interpol gets my vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509044)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:49 PM
Author: Pale drunken hominid

first album was 180.

paul and carlos were actually cool rock star types too. other indie bands almost never had dudes like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509118)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:53 PM
Author: black circlehead sex offender

same. I never miss their show when they come to town. I'm seeing them in a few months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509129)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 1:32 AM
Author: Sable Titillating Range Mental Disorder



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:22 PM
Author: nighttime talented philosopher-king

Animal Collective

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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:40 PM
Author: Walnut Piazza Hissy Fit

brother sport is ungnnngnngngh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509105)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:40 PM
Author: Nofapping market wrinkle

Arcade Fire put on the best three album run

The Strokes have a high number of excellent albums & fewest clunkers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509106)



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Date: March 19th, 2024 11:56 PM
Author: Supple pit pistol

there was such an avalanche of so much indie music of high technical/production/songwriting quality coming out back then that it became 'worthless' in a sense.

sort of like how 2020s NBA seems kind of lame because teams 'cracked the code' and even mediocre players are basically stronger/more athletic than peak Michael Jordan. it devalues the product somehow.

i remember listening to my hipster GF's indie ipod and it was like 10000 songs that were all sort of 'better' than anything that came out of 80s/90s indie, but also sort of interchangeable and boring as a result.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509135)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 8:45 AM
Author: Autistic mind-boggling church building generalized bond

Lana del Rey

Two door cinema club

Young the giant

Cage the elephant

Metric

Florence and the machine

Alvvays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509577)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 1:02 PM
Author: slimy fluffy newt

👍

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47510401)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 8:46 AM
Author: Glittery free-loading azn

The Killers. Done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509579)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:24 AM
Author: Claret corn cake

not really indie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509674)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:24 AM
Author: Sick plaza

the Indie Big 3: Wilco, The National, Bon Iver

alternates: Broken Social Scene, Grizzly Bear, Belle & Sebastian, Phoenix, Vampire Weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509672)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:29 AM
Author: Turquoise insanely creepy factory reset button

The Strokes and The Killers are the two best bands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509683)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:31 AM
Author: Bronze filthpig

Aerosmith

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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:33 AM
Author: jet-lagged masturbator set

Out of the group OP listed, the White Stripes and it isn't close.

Arcade Fire solid second.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509691)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:36 AM
Author: diverse degenerate

“Indie” is too broad of a label. At this point it’s basically meaning any non-classical/country/screamo music by white people with real instruments between 2000 and 2020.

But in no specific order I would say:

death cab/postal service, modest mouse, bloc party, foals, arcade fire, interpol, silversun pickups, band of horses, war on drugs, beach house, the XX, Bombay bicycle club, the national, two door cinema club, Franz Ferdinand, grizzly bear, local natives, lcd soundsystem, future islands, phoenix, yeah yeah yeahs, fleet foxes, empire of the Sun, m83, Arctic monkeys, the strokes, cage the elephant, tame impala, metric, vampire weekend. There are a few more.

Picking a best is impossible - how do you compare silversun pickups to beach house?

Im leaving the killers, white stripes, keane and muse off this list. They are rock bands but very far away from what someone would consider “indie” if you listened to the rest of the list.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509696)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 12:38 PM
Author: Glittery free-loading azn

Don't mention bloc party pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47510308)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: internet-worthy address water buffalo

indie is a shitty term because it originates from a business model but has been transformed into an aesthetic. under the former, white stripes are as indie as it gets. but to most people now indie means you have a beard, a short brim hat, tattoos, and folk instruments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47510440)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 1:22 AM
Author: diverse degenerate

So what? Talking about how indie used to mean “independent” is like saying Netflix isn’t “tv” if you watch it on a laptop or something. Terms change. I don’t even think the “independent” phrase really had much value at the start anyways. Who cares if a band has signed with a label? Meaningless for listeners.

I don’t think many people’s mind jumps to Mumford and sons or the lumineers when they hear “indie” either - folk music and brim hats are just that - folk music. I think my list is pretty fair. It basically means electic rock music with emo undertones. More of a vibe than anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512282)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:53 AM
Author: histrionic slippery incel

Hudson Bell

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Date: March 20th, 2024 9:58 AM
Author: Arousing amber alpha lay

Spoon is by far the best from that era simply because each album they produced is good music. Girls Can Tell, Kill the Moonlight, Gimme Fiction, Ga Ga Ga, etc. They just consistently put out good music.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509748)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:03 AM
Author: internet-worthy address water buffalo

and they still do. last couple of records went a more synth/electronic direction and are still very good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509757)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:00 AM
Author: internet-worthy address water buffalo

not seeing much lcd in here. anyway it's probably the strokes. they were there from the start and they're still there. white stripes burned hotter but burned out. could argue for arcade fire, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509750)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:20 AM
Author: Autistic mind-boggling church building generalized bond

Strokes = the last rock band before everything became “indie”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47509821)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 1:13 PM
Author: internet-worthy address water buffalo

i don't know, the killers and black keys have been huge for 20+ years now. rock definitely isn't the main attraction anymore, but there were plenty of successful acts amidst all the clap stomp hey indie shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47510429)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 1:04 PM
Author: adventurous wine bawdyhouse

The Lumineers /EOT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47510404)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 3:44 PM
Author: Lake Trip Menage

Cart me off to Williamsburg 2008

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47510923)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:07 PM
Author: 180 Brethren Tanning Salon

second Chairlift record

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Date: March 20th, 2024 10:11 PM
Author: Effete quadroon pervert

Postal Service

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Date: March 20th, 2024 11:49 PM
Author: Walnut Piazza Hissy Fit

This thread is unearthing long lost memories and playlists and albums long forgotten from college

Take me back, take me back to seeing death cab and broken social scene in small venues and following random blogspot blogs to catch new music and seeing what your friends were listening to on last.fm and stealing music from people’s iTunes on the library WiFi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512164)



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Date: March 20th, 2024 11:51 PM
Author: Nofapping market wrinkle

I still use last.fm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512167)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 4:41 AM
Author: Self-centered Hyperactive Double Fault Orchestra Pit

Are you old enough to have listened to college radio? That’s how I learned about new music back then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512377)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 12:06 AM
Author: jet-lagged masturbator set

Xo has such horrible taste in music unless most of you guys are flaming or gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512185)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: Arousing amber alpha lay

stfu ZZZ

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Date: March 21st, 2024 1:36 AM
Author: multi-colored brilliant ceo
Subject: im gay

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4825046&mc=39&forum_id=2

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Date: March 21st, 2024 3:05 AM
Author: cowardly university

I agree with a lot of the suggestions ITT. I'd add The Mountain Goats to the list of contenders, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506448&forum_id=2).#47512358)



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Date: March 21st, 2024 4:47 AM
Author: Self-centered Hyperactive Double Fault Orchestra Pit

Lot of good stuff itt although there’s some of the inevitable attempts to out-indie other people. I like Beach House, too, but to put them in the same importance conversation as Arcade Fire or the White Stripes, etc. is laughable.

For endurance, I think it’s The National and Arcade Fire. Still both touring and have listenable music, and it’s not gimmicky or wildly different than what they were playing 15-20 years ago.

This thread confirms that many of us are 38-44.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 10:13 PM
Author: cowgod



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