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it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, h...
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Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?
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Date: May 12th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: razzle irate preventive strike coffee pot

Lee Zeldin

@epaleezeldin

Start/stop technology: where your car dies at every red light so companies get a climate participation trophy. EPA approved it, and everyone hates it, so we’re fixing it.

https://x.com/epaleezeldin/status/1921894994769575972

So you voted for global warming, rising sea levels and mass climate refugees? Are you sure about this, Trumpkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923573)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac amethyst therapy menage

jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929783)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: white odious sandwich sanctuary

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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: razzle irate preventive strike coffee pot

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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: crystalline wagecucks athletic conference



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: curious aggressive garrison



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Submissive stirring giraffe



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Beady-eyed fishy home

Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it but I've had rentals and it doesnt bother me at all. The engine instantly restarts. Does the function degrade over time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923583)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Laughsome Dopamine Faggot Firefighter

I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting your car engine hundreds of times a day for no reason is going to fuck it up over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923588)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: buff diverse nursing home rigpig



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: razzle irate preventive strike coffee pot

Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. The energy costs of prematurely replacing starters, etc. is going to be way more than the energy saved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923594)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: Electric Coldplay Fan Space

variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at startup so they require less toque to crank. Hybrids run in atkinson cycle full time, so what you may be feeling is the shift in valve timing after the crankshaft gets cranked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928460)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: green area

did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you turn your 70s vehicle on and off at each stoplight? those are the only way your "obviously" retarded claim would be true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924192)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: white odious sandwich sanctuary

it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, hit the gas, and ooops the car has to restart itself.

also it is just there to game CAFE stats, directly raising the frontend cost of the car and prematurely wearing out the battery, starter and alternator to do it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923635)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: buck-toothed sienna goal in life

Fucks up the starter, and is pointless.

I had a car that the AC would turn off when this happened too. You can disable it but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923813)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Electric Coldplay Fan Space

Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927473)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: Laughsome Dopamine Faggot Firefighter

Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car doesn't have it but every rental car does and I always have to disable it every time I start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923585)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: Vigorous onyx electric furnace

It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set it once, you have to turn off the "feature" every time you start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923600)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Laughsome Dopamine Faggot Firefighter



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: brilliant seedy old irish cottage

its like the calibri font of car features

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923618)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: idiotic location



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:47 PM
Author: Submissive stirring giraffe



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: Boyish public bath legal warrant



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: Talented bisexual locale



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: idiotic location

It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass to disable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923619)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: idiotic location

This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180 if he does this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923586)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Ocher learning disabled brunch

If this actually one of the worst things in your life congrats on your chill life

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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: brilliant seedy old irish cottage

it was always a ridiculous concept

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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Umber bipolar foreskin

Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your starter 3x as often!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923663)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Massive Codepig

just remove the second little twink battery your car will automatically recognize this and deactivate the system (not legal advice)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923669)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Emerald razzmatazz indian lodge philosopher-king

Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at a red light.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923680)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: buck-toothed sienna goal in life

Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change "climate change" so why fuck up our lives fixing imaginary problems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48923806)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: histrionic puce lay bbw

Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the first stop light, which is very long, that your engine and AC are shut off. There is no physical button to disable the feature and the menus on the touchscreen are impenetrable with the checkbox to disable this intentionally buried by a Swedish engineer who has never seen a 90 degree day in his life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924102)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: white odious sandwich sanctuary

i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it from newest models, that guy in Sweden caught on that you mistakenly felt you needed air conditioning. you now have to put it into manual at the light, or keep pressing the gas to keep it going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924116)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: histrionic puce lay bbw

*creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep car in motion*

Being fatally T-boned to death would be preferable to dying of heat stroke. At least less sweaty and more dignified a way to go out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924173)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Nofapping mischievous antidepressant drug milk

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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Nofapping mischievous antidepressant drug milk

Vovlo is chinese bro

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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: buck-toothed sienna goal in life

Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to herpes and the clap. Don’t ask how I know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924305)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: Boyish public bath legal warrant

How was Sixt otherwise?

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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: histrionic puce lay bbw

I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they might negligently have you jailed.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928444)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Dull shivering resort sneaky criminal

Patriots are in control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924180)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: Abusive Mewling Church Building Knife

"For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from this technology are typically in the range of 3–10%, potentially as high as 12%.[3] In the United States, according to the Department of Energy, idling wastes more than 6 billion U.S. gallons (23 billion liters; 5.0 billion imperial gallons) of fuel per year.[4]"

"The amount of gasoline used annually in the US varies from year to year, but it is generally in the range of 120 to 140 billion gallons. This translates to an average of about 340 to 390 million gallons per day. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924251)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: brilliant seedy old irish cottage

"idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucking retards fiddling with their phones while stopped in the right lane for 15 minutes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48924390)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:55 AM
Author: Impertinent opaque sex offender

fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48926158)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: Abusive Mewling Church Building Knife

do not disagree

any idea where to get non fraud numbers?

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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: white odious sandwich sanctuary

there really don't seem to be any.

everything seems to be based on crazy studies that claim that people spend 20% of their time idling (https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/does-auto-start-stop-save-fuel/)

if that were true, maybe it would make some sense, but then you'd expect to just have it as a feature people could turn on and off and not some shit that is forced down people's throats.

even taking industry numbers at face value, grok thinks it would take about 3 years to save enough gas to make up for the higher purchase price, and if you include higher ongoing maintenance costs it would be an overall expense



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927540)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Nofapping mischievous antidepressant drug milk

20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red lights or waiting your turn to turn, etc?

do you think you are driving forward 90% of the time? if so you are probably retarded or a trucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929748)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: white odious sandwich sanctuary

are you a nyc uber driver?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929810)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Nofapping mischievous antidepressant drug milk

wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929960)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: Laughsome Dopamine Faggot Firefighter

Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929953)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: Nofapping mischievous antidepressant drug milk

ljl

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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: Electric Coldplay Fan Space

ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is stopping or starting. You need an icon on the dashboard to tell you when it's EV mode

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48927478)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: Snowy violent striped hyena newt

*Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928450)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: chocolate base

*Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48928469)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: razzle irate preventive strike coffee pot

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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: heady rusted church

I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me absolutely crazy. Why oh why do Democrats leave these 98/2 issues for Republicans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929770)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Nofapping mischievous antidepressant drug milk

lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute while you dont move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929784)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: heady rusted church

It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it feels like the car died. I had a piece of shit car as a youth that died in traffic several times so maybe it’s low-level PTSD. Perhaps this is why oldmos hate it more, we remember when Cars were Bad and died randomly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929854)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Nofapping mischievous antidepressant drug milk

i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die at a traffic stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48929961)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:46 PM
Author: Abusive Mewling Church Building Knife

libs have shit for brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2).#48945959)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: Laughsome Dopamine Faggot Firefighter

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