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CNN: there is a "friendliness" to Iranians who chant "death to America"

https://x.com/DerrickEvans4WV/status/1937861585760116900
appetizing ratface nursing home
  06/25/25
Tbf, it makes sense they’d be friendly to CNN since th...
Mind-boggling Abode
  06/25/25
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appetizing ratface nursing home
  06/25/25
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bistre institution
  06/25/25
Many posters are very friendly chill and fratty yet chant th...
Maroon bat shit crazy menage round eye
  06/25/25
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multi-colored puppy space
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judgmental stead
  06/25/25
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nubile toaster university
  06/25/25
Cons sure did become pro war rather quickly
Twisted carnelian queen of the night
  06/25/25
meanwhile libs have been very consistent in supporting death...
Learning disabled chest-beating location
  06/25/25
This has always been a Zionist trick to leave out the contex...
milky associate corner
  06/25/25
ChatGPT says you’re partially right but also antisemit...
Twisted carnelian queen of the night
  06/25/25
Wait you’re telling me that Sam Altman, the *Sam Altma...
milky associate corner
  06/25/25
Here’s what Elon’s Grok bot says The explana...
Twisted carnelian queen of the night
  06/25/25
I feel pretty vindicated that both LLMs agree that I’m...
milky associate corner
  06/25/25
All I’m hearing is that muzzies like to talk about dea...
arousing stage circlehead
  06/26/25
That’s exactly right, but not all Muslims, just Persia...
milky associate corner
  06/26/25
Don’t be ridiculous. I’m sure they generally mea...
arousing stage circlehead
  06/28/25
what they actually are meaning is RESISTANCE
Electric tattoo twinkling uncleanness
  06/25/25
correct. talk to muslims about this and they will all say th...
Curious messiness
  06/26/25
Dana Bash looked ready to push back on that and call out the...
Clear idea he suggested spot
  06/25/25
next they are going to be sending waves of jets to actually ...
Vengeful violent legal warrant karate
  06/25/25
there was a meme going around yesterday, "According to ...
henna international law enforcement agency
  06/25/25
I mean we took away their democracy, installed a murderous p...
Wonderful hospital bbw
  06/25/25
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Maroon bat shit crazy menage round eye
  06/25/25
and we'll fuckin do it again
bistre institution
  06/25/25
is this some kind of gay stockholm syndrome thing?
Orange galvanic candlestick maker
  06/25/25
there's something joyful about it, even
floppy adulterous feces senate
  06/25/25


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Date: June 25th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: appetizing ratface nursing home

https://x.com/DerrickEvans4WV/status/1937861585760116900

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048289)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Abode

Tbf, it makes sense they’d be friendly to CNN since they also hate America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048452)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: appetizing ratface nursing home



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Date: June 25th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: bistre institution

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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: Maroon bat shit crazy menage round eye

Many posters are very friendly chill and fratty yet chant this as they post all the time imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048569)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: multi-colored puppy space



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Date: June 25th, 2025 5:05 PM
Author: judgmental stead



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Date: June 25th, 2025 10:04 PM
Author: nubile toaster university



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Twisted carnelian queen of the night

Cons sure did become pro war rather quickly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048571)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: Learning disabled chest-beating location

meanwhile libs have been very consistent in supporting death to America you retarded jewish pedophile. stop having the shittiest takes on everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048573)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: milky associate corner

This has always been a Zionist trick to leave out the context of idiomatic Farsi. While “death to” is the closest literal translation the usage is much more along the lines of “down with” in English, but that doesn’t make the swarthy Muslims sound as scary. But it’s similar to how a Persian mother or grandmother will casual say to her kids “I would die for you” when an American would say “I love you.” Farsi is a very dramatic and lyrical language/linguistic culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048583)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Twisted carnelian queen of the night

ChatGPT says you’re partially right but also antisemitic

The explanation you’ve quoted is partially accurate, but it also includes loaded language and some misleading framing. Here’s a breakdown of what’s true and what’s not:

✅ What’s true:

• Idiomatic meaning:

The Farsi phrase “Marg bar [X]” literally translates to “Death to [X],” but it’s often used idiomatically to mean “Down with [X]” or to express strong opposition. It doesn’t always imply a literal call for physical death.

• Cultural context:

Farsi is a highly expressive language. Phrases like “I would die for you” (“Joonam barat”) are common expressions of love or affection, not literal intentions. This dramatic flair carries into political slogans as well.

⚠️ What’s misleading or problematic:

• “Zionist trick”:

Blaming the translation or interpretation on a deliberate “Zionist trick” is a conspiratorial and inflammatory claim. Western media, including non-Zionist outlets, have long translated “Marg bar Amrika” as “Death to America” because that’s the literal and most shocking phrasing — and that’s how it’s chanted.

• Intent and tone matter:

Even if the idiomatic meaning is softer, the tone and context of these chants (e.g., at rallies, during times of political tension) are often highly aggressive and anti-American. They are meant to provoke, not just to express nuanced dissent.

• Equivalence to “I love you”:

While the comparison to familial phrases is linguistically interesting, equating a protest chant aimed at a country or government with a grandmother saying “I would die for you” is not a direct or fair analogy.

✅ Summary:

• “Marg bar Amrika” is idiomatically closer to “Down with America” than “Kill Americans.”

• However, it is still intentionally provocative and hostile in political contexts.

• The claim that “Zionists” created the mistranslation is not credible and veers into conspiracy theory.

• Farsi is indeed a lyrical and dramatic language, but context matters more than literal phrasing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048591)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: milky associate corner

Wait you’re telling me that Sam Altman, the *Sam Altman,* he of the “rodent faced man” craze of 2024, programmed his company’s flagship product to throw accusations of antisemitism at anyone who characterizes the default position of western media to be Zionist? Really? Wow. Now who’s the conspiracy theorist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048604)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Twisted carnelian queen of the night

Here’s what Elon’s Grok bot says

The explanation captures some truth but oversimplifies and contains inaccuracies. In Farsi, the phrase often translated as “death to” (e.g., “marg bar Amrika”) is idiomatic and doesn’t always imply a literal call for death. It can mean “down with” or express strong opposition, akin to protest slogans. This aligns with the explanation’s point about linguistic nuance and Farsi’s dramatic, poetic nature. For example, Iranians might use hyperbolic expressions in everyday speech, like a mother saying “I would die for you” to express love, as noted.

However, the explanation ignores context. The chant “death to America” emerged during the 1979 Islamic Revolution, rooted in anti-U.S. sentiment over historical grievances like the 1953 CIA-backed coup and U.S. support for the Shah. While not always a literal call to violence, it often carries hostile intent in political contexts, especially when state-sponsored. Dismissing it as a “Zionist trick” oversimplifies and implies a conspiracy, ignoring the chant’s organic origins and varied usage. The “swarthy Muslims” phrase also introduces an unnecessary, potentially offensive stereotype.

In short, the explanation is partly correct about linguistic nuance but misleadingly downplays the chant’s political weight and context. Farsi’s lyrical nature softens some translations, but “death to America” can still convey strong animosity, depending on the setting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048676)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 3:02 PM
Author: milky associate corner

I feel pretty vindicated that both LLMs agree that I’m right about the misleading translations and have to both sides me because I made a logical inference about long-standing and well-known agendas and biases of western media. I especially like how they concede that it is not a literal exhortation to physical violence but nonetheless “conveys strong animosity” and is “provocative” in the context of a protest, as if the phrase “down with [X]” doesn’t/isnt. Their wokester algorithm fixers need to come up with some better bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49049159)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:06 AM
Author: arousing stage circlehead

All I’m hearing is that muzzies like to talk about death so much that it has creeped into everyday usage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49050718)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: milky associate corner

That’s exactly right, but not all Muslims, just Persians. In arabic they really do mean death to America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49052377)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:56 AM
Author: arousing stage circlehead

Don’t be ridiculous. I’m sure they generally mean it in Iran too in a lot of contexts. Anyway, they’re well aware of how it’s perceived, so they’d change the word if they wanted it be perceived otherwise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49055645)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Electric tattoo twinkling uncleanness

what they actually are meaning is RESISTANCE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048594)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:17 AM
Author: Curious messiness

correct. talk to muslims about this and they will all say that the phrase relates to regimes, and not to people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49050734)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: Clear idea he suggested spot

Dana Bash looked ready to push back on that and call out the antisemitism of the Iranian people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048587)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Vengeful violent legal warrant karate

next they are going to be sending waves of jets to actually kill our sailors



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048592)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: henna international law enforcement agency

there was a meme going around yesterday, "According to CNN ..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49048913)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: Wonderful hospital bbw

I mean we took away their democracy, installed a murderous puppet who was so unpopular some radical uneducated religious folk took over cuz they were the only ones with the balls to fight the American dictator. Now the people are stuck with a religious murderous dictator and people are like "omg these Iranians dont like us, they a clearly the bad guy because we are good!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49049166)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: Maroon bat shit crazy menage round eye

180

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Date: June 25th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: bistre institution

and we'll fuckin do it again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49049380)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Orange galvanic candlestick maker

is this some kind of gay stockholm syndrome thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49049179)



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Date: June 25th, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: floppy adulterous feces senate

there's something joyful about it, even

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743074&forum_id=2).#49050444)