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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Provocative snowy gaming laptop
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
glassy magical center philosopher-king
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
glassy magical center philosopher-king
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Sienna Deranged Hospital
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Soul-stirring School
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
orchid yapping stock car field
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Mauve Odious Giraffe Whorehouse
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Mauve Odious Giraffe Whorehouse
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Mauve Odious Giraffe Whorehouse
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Awkward duck-like kitty locale
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
aromatic party of the first part ticket booth
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
milky casino travel guidebook
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Provocative snowy gaming laptop
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Fluffy Sapphire Faggotry
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
bearded umber pervert
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Boyish orchestra pit
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Provocative snowy gaming laptop
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Turquoise indian lodge blood rage
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/26/25
...
Misunderstood Chocolate Toaster Box Office
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
pea-brained stain tattoo
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Mind-boggling prole heaven
  06/26/25
...
bonkers weed whacker
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
copper elite home
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
appetizing gaped market
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Cerebral maize parlour
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
appetizing gaped market
  06/27/25
How was penn?
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
orchid yapping stock car field
  06/27/25
...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Khaki community account messiness
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
appetizing gaped market
  06/27/25
...
talented legend
  06/27/25
...
cocky disturbing kitchen
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Cerebral maize parlour
  06/27/25
How is STB?
orchid yapping stock car field
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Pale federal water buffalo area
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
pea-brained stain tattoo
  06/27/25
...
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  06/27/25
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Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Provocative snowy gaming laptop

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: glassy magical center philosopher-king

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: glassy magical center philosopher-king

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Sienna Deranged Hospital

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Soul-stirring School

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: orchid yapping stock car field

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Mauve Odious Giraffe Whorehouse

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Mauve Odious Giraffe Whorehouse

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Mauve Odious Giraffe Whorehouse

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Awkward duck-like kitty locale

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: aromatic party of the first part ticket booth

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: milky casino travel guidebook

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Provocative snowy gaming laptop

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Fluffy Sapphire Faggotry

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: bearded umber pervert

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Boyish orchestra pit

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Provocative snowy gaming laptop

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Turquoise indian lodge blood rage

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Misunderstood Chocolate Toaster Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: pea-brained stain tattoo

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Mind-boggling prole heaven

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: bonkers weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: copper elite home

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: appetizing gaped market

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Cerebral maize parlour

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: appetizing gaped market

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: orchid yapping stock car field

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Khaki community account messiness

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: appetizing gaped market

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: talented legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: cocky disturbing kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Cerebral maize parlour

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: orchid yapping stock car field

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Pale federal water buffalo area

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: pea-brained stain tattoo

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Claret telephone library



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Self-centered Twinkling Uncleanness



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