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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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deep zombie-like library boistinker
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
curious skinny woman
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
curious skinny woman
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Tantric rebellious national ceo
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Copper Gunner Ladyboy
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Crystalline newt
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Contagious macaca
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
High-end galvanic stage
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
High-end galvanic stage
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
High-end galvanic stage
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
charismatic very tactful bbw
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Purple metal partner
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
splenetic trust fund pit
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Crystalline newt
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
deep zombie-like library boistinker
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Apoplectic odious garrison
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
razzmatazz balding fat ankles
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Glittery Hell Regret
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
deep zombie-like library boistinker
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
heady potus
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/26/25
...
cowardly crackhouse
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
territorial locus
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
khaki property idea he suggested
  06/26/25
...
elite concupiscible liquid oxygen
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Trip step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Up-to-no-good kitchen
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
hideous green stead
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Up-to-no-good kitchen
  06/27/25
How was penn?
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Crystalline newt
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Contagious macaca
  06/27/25
...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Pearl Antidepressant Drug
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Up-to-no-good kitchen
  06/27/25
...
cobalt sanctuary
  06/27/25
...
bearded tattoo indian lodge
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
hideous green stead
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Contagious macaca
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
At-the-ready violent address
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Crystalline newt
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
territorial locus
  06/27/25
...
Citrine vivacious institution
  06/27/25
...
Crystalline newt
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: deep zombie-like library boistinker

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: curious skinny woman

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: curious skinny woman

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Tantric rebellious national ceo

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Copper Gunner Ladyboy

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Crystalline newt

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Contagious macaca

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: High-end galvanic stage

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: High-end galvanic stage

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: High-end galvanic stage

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: charismatic very tactful bbw

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Purple metal partner

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: splenetic trust fund pit

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Crystalline newt

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: deep zombie-like library boistinker

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Apoplectic odious garrison

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: razzmatazz balding fat ankles

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Glittery Hell Regret

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: deep zombie-like library boistinker

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: heady potus

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: cowardly crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: territorial locus

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: khaki property idea he suggested

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: elite concupiscible liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Trip step-uncle's house

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good kitchen

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: hideous green stead

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good kitchen

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Crystalline newt

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Contagious macaca

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Pearl Antidepressant Drug

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good kitchen

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: cobalt sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: bearded tattoo indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: hideous green stead

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Contagious macaca

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: At-the-ready violent address

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Crystalline newt

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: territorial locus

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Citrine vivacious institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Crystalline newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053817)