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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Stimulating House
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
supple old irish cottage hall
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
supple old irish cottage hall
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
bronze locale goyim
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Cracking deep dysfunction
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
crawly school
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Razzle nibblets
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Heady church
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Heady church
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Heady church
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Vivacious blue resort
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
cerebral crystalline kitchen gay wizard
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
hairless base useless brakes
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
crawly school
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Stimulating House
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Exciting piazza elastic band
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Motley deer antler
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Alcoholic bawdyhouse
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Stimulating House
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Beady-eyed Temple
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/26/25
...
Brass fear-inspiring puppy
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Up-to-no-good Native Immigrant
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
duck-like bat shit crazy area trump supporter
  06/26/25
...
purple senate pisswyrm
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Ivory hospital
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
irradiated disturbing cruise ship
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Idiotic public bath
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
irradiated disturbing cruise ship
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
crawly school
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Razzle nibblets
  06/27/25
...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Honey-headed adventurous crotch library
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
irradiated disturbing cruise ship
  06/27/25
...
Out-of-control blood rage office
  06/27/25
...
Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Idiotic public bath
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Razzle nibblets
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Lemon odious lettuce
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
crawly school
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Up-to-no-good Native Immigrant
  06/27/25
...
painfully honest pit potus
  06/27/25
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crawly school
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Stimulating House

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: supple old irish cottage hall

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: supple old irish cottage hall

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: bronze locale goyim

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Cracking deep dysfunction

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: crawly school

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Razzle nibblets

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Heady church

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Heady church

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Heady church

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Vivacious blue resort

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: cerebral crystalline kitchen gay wizard

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: hairless base useless brakes

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: crawly school

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Stimulating House

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Exciting piazza elastic band

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Motley deer antler

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Alcoholic bawdyhouse

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Stimulating House

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Temple

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Brass fear-inspiring puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Native Immigrant

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: duck-like bat shit crazy area trump supporter

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: purple senate pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Ivory hospital

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: irradiated disturbing cruise ship

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Idiotic public bath

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: irradiated disturbing cruise ship

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: crawly school

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Razzle nibblets

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Honey-headed adventurous crotch library

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: irradiated disturbing cruise ship

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Out-of-control blood rage office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Frum Chest-beating Police Squad Giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Idiotic public bath

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Razzle nibblets

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Lemon odious lettuce

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: crawly school

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Native Immigrant

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: painfully honest pit potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: crawly school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2).#49053817)