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Epstein question. Do we think he killed himself?

Options: 1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed...
free-loading institution
  07/16/25
go back to MPC
Zippy awkward dragon fanboi
  07/16/25
What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits...
Dashing pisswyrm
  07/16/25
I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagi...
aggressive church
  07/16/25
Cthulu?
hairraiser parlor
  07/16/25
i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the R...
apoplectic travel guidebook
  07/16/25
One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is ove...
pale bonkers whorehouse wagecucks
  07/16/25
Can you ask grok what he thinks?
Cerebral coral candlestick maker ticket booth
  07/16/25
3. He never died.
soul-stirring seedy stage
  07/16/25
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razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point
  07/16/25
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idiotic vivacious selfie
  07/16/25
it’s insane to believe that this man was running perha...
razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point
  07/16/25
If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himsel...
free-loading institution
  07/16/25
agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running&r...
razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point
  07/16/25
He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine...
Fiercely-loyal onyx double fault
  07/16/25
...
aggressive church
  07/16/25
If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to e...
Dashing pisswyrm
  07/16/25
That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two week...
fluffy galvanic roast beef locus
  07/16/25
do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter ...
razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point
  07/16/25
This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises c...
Fuchsia Faggotry Knife
  07/16/25
Yes. Trump would never lie
Green Base Gaming Laptop
  07/16/25
Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets...
free-loading institution
  07/16/25
esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to...
Green Base Gaming Laptop
  07/16/25
These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.
free-loading institution
  07/16/25
So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.
Green Base Gaming Laptop
  07/16/25
cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and...
opaque preventive strike resort
  07/16/25
(thomas jefferson)
opaque preventive strike resort
  07/16/25
he was clearly killed
talented house goal in life
  07/16/25
Hell to the NO
frozen translucent new version brunch
  07/16/25
Define "killed." I think the most likely explanati...
Indecent khaki corner
  07/16/25
What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind o...
brindle heady space incel
  07/16/25
Epstein was only the second successful “suicide”...
Fuchsia Faggotry Knife
  07/16/25
Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wh...
floppy carmine theatre
  07/16/25
necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians...
Charismatic karate
  07/16/25
imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himse...
Blathering headpube old irish cottage
  07/16/25
otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young...
Costumed curious stock car hall
  07/16/25


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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: free-loading institution

Options:

1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed himself in jail.

2. He was killed.

3. He didn't die when he was reported to die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105489)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: Zippy awkward dragon fanboi

go back to MPC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105517)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: Dashing pisswyrm

What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits, and a stained very-public reputation, so he killed himself to avoid those consequences?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105827)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: aggressive church

I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagine the suicide was allowed to happen (vs someone slipping in and assassinating him)

Whether that was from his own depression, his loyalty to someone else, or some sort of occult or technological or psychological control, I have no idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105496)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: hairraiser parlor

Cthulu?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105771)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: apoplectic travel guidebook

i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the Reddit Opinion, so I am now on team Epstein Killed Himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105500)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: pale bonkers whorehouse wagecucks

One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly against, but because there is no direct evidence proponents of the suicide claim can just stigmatize doubters as insane, and constantly demand direct evidence

Circumstantial evidence:

- Very hard to physically kill self in suicide prevention cells in fed detention. Clothes and sheets are rip-away. Beds are short.

- This was most famous inmate in history of fed custody, whose well-being would be primary concern of entire administration

- Credible testimony from lawyer that JE was in good spirits

- Objective evidence that JE was actively preparing for trial

- Multiple layers of failsafes: Multiple cameras, multiple guards. Each and every layer happened to fail simultaneously

- Less credible testimonial evidence of unusual activity at jail. Transport van arriving on weekend, not typical. Van not being signed in, not typical, etc.

Contextualize all of the above with the general suspicion, supported by the Palm Beach's DA on the record testimony ("he's with intelligence"), that JE was involved in secret state activities which means powerful forces would WANT him dead.

So you have motive, and a ton of circumstantial evidence.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105503)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Cerebral coral candlestick maker ticket booth

Can you ask grok what he thinks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105762)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: soul-stirring seedy stage

3. He never died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105579)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105580)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: idiotic vivacious selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105830)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point

it’s insane to believe that this man was running perhaps the largest blackmail scheme in human history involving billionaires and heads of state and his only recourse once arrested via typical channels was to kill himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105582)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: free-loading institution

If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himself. I don't know but it is possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105586)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point

agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running” the operation, which should imply new and deeper questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105592)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal onyx double fault

He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine maxwell is a reddit moderator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105583)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: aggressive church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105588)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Dashing pisswyrm

If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to explain his failed suicide attempt 2 weeks before he died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105585)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: fluffy galvanic roast beef locus

That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two weeks before he allegedly kills himself he’s found in his cell with bruises around his neck. They put him on suicide watch, per protocols, which requires heightened surveillance. Two weeks later he’s dead by suicide. In the interim he’d been working with his lawyers in preparation for his bail hearing (I think) and felt optimistic that he would be released because of the broad agreement that was in place as part of his prior conviction. But then security completely lapsed one night and he decided to lull himself again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106078)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle plum dingle berry point

do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter a failed suicide attempt into the record?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106346)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Fuchsia Faggotry Knife

This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises came from.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/nicholas-tartaglione-sentenced-epstein-cellmate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106379)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Green Base Gaming Laptop

Yes. Trump would never lie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105765)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: free-loading institution

Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets and we have to accept that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105780)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Green Base Gaming Laptop

esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to come out and upset people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105829)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: free-loading institution

These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106042)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Green Base Gaming Laptop

So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106074)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: opaque preventive strike resort

cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and bless their kiddie sex

it's the ideal that birthed our nation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106076)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: opaque preventive strike resort

(thomas jefferson)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105986)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: talented house goal in life

he was clearly killed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105840)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: frozen translucent new version brunch

Hell to the NO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105863)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: Indecent khaki corner

Define "killed." I think the most likely explanation was that his jailers knew that he was suicidal and also hated him as a pedo, so they gave him the proverbial rope to hang himself. It is weird, though, that the "full security video" was very obviously edited. I still think the most likely explanation was that the full video showed that they left a sheet or something for him to hang himself with, but it is still strange.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106243)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: brindle heady space incel

What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind of hive consciousness

I'm open to various things, but one of the ones I'm not is suicide. That's fucking ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106372)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Fuchsia Faggotry Knife

Epstein was only the second successful “suicide” in 40 years at MCC.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/epstein-new-york-lockup-suicides

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106388)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: floppy carmine theatre

Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wheeled his body, out of a bodybag, face uncovered, out in public so a well-placed photographer could capture a picture of said body, proving that he was, in fact, dead and had not, instead, walked out of jail and into a new chapter of his clearly very well connected life?

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/epstein-body.jpg

https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/jeffrey-epsteins-death-three-years-later-what-we-know-and-whats-still-a-mystery/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106448)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Charismatic karate

necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians inside the system, I gather that the reason that public officials are freaking out about releasing the list is that SCOTUS are involved, foreign "dignitaries" etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106449)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: Blathering headpube old irish cottage

imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himself

only possibility imo is body double + went back to israel to chill and retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106454)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Costumed curious stock car hall

otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young women often killself, before or after they go to jail.

otoh, inmates had an incentive to kill him regardless of the Mossad-IC angle.

otthirdhand, IC and Mossad had an incentive to have him killed.

otfourthhand, he could have accepted his fate for the greater good and either killedself or didn't fight when the inmate offed him.

how can we really know at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106473)