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Cons what the fuck is "absolute immunity?" Is that a legal concept?

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soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
yes it is
talking heaven kitty
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
because White people (your Betters) decided that it should
talking heaven kitty
  01/08/26
Why?
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
yes, it is
bateful chapel
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
who cares
bateful chapel
  01/08/26
Anyone?
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
(Stephen Miller’s intern)
excitant canary codepig space
  01/08/26
Never heard of it.
Irradiated round eye corner
  01/08/26
It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain cir...
vivacious business firm turdskin
  01/08/26
So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can a...
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.
Flesh trip native pistol
  01/08/26
Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy...
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killin...
Flesh trip native pistol
  01/08/26
DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the s...
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity...
Flesh trip native pistol
  01/08/26
Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employmen...
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue. abs...
Flesh trip native pistol
  01/08/26
So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if y...
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it. qual...
Flesh trip native pistol
  01/08/26
I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agen...
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/08/26
that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up s...
Flesh trip native pistol
  01/09/26
If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this gu...
soul-stirring opaque brethren hall
  01/09/26


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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573120)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: talking heaven kitty

yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573122)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573211)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: talking heaven kitty

because White people (your Betters) decided that it should

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573240)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573418)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: bateful chapel

yes, it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573125)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573148)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: bateful chapel

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573205)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573210)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: excitant canary codepig space

(Stephen Miller’s intern)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573130)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: Irradiated round eye corner

Never heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573138)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: vivacious business firm turdskin

It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573213)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573368)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: Flesh trip native pistol

it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573411)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573417)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: Flesh trip native pistol

i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.

in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573790)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573813)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: Flesh trip native pistol

that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.

the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573965)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573971)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: Flesh trip native pistol

i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.

absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.

so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573986)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49573991)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Flesh trip native pistol

absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.

qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49574651)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49574741)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: Flesh trip native pistol

that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49574789)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM
Author: soul-stirring opaque brethren hall

If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2,#49574803)