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Google sued over its “AI Overviews”

- First major U.S. publisher to challenge Google’s AI ...
aids
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ai addict
  09/15/25
Is this about Net Neutrality
charles XII
  09/15/25
it's annoying how it puts out blatantly incorrect informatio...
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The internet as we know it is going to slowly die because of...
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it's like a metaphor for capitalism and stuff
OYT: Dinosaur Hunter
  09/15/25
Good. The internet was best when it was only white guys disc...
obazla
  09/15/25
I agree, but the problem is that those web sites/services ar...
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concern boner
  09/15/25
I don't even use google anymore I just ask chatgpt stuff
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  09/15/25
by that point, the AI will be good enough to do its own rese...
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aids
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good. Google should lose this
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Date: September 14th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: aids

- First major U.S. publisher to challenge Google’s AI Overviews in court

- Penske says Google ties search visibility to use of its content in AI overviews

- Penske says affiliate revenue is down by more than a third from peak

- Google argues AI overviews help users, broaden site traffic

Sept 13 (Reuters) - The owner of Rolling Stone, Billboard and Variety sued Google on Friday, alleging the technology giant's AI summaries use its journalism without consent and reduce traffic to its websites.

The lawsuit by Penske Media in federal court in Washington, D.C., marks the first time a major U.S. publisher has taken Alphabet-owned (GOOGL.O) Google to court over the AI-generated summaries that now appear on top of its search results.

News organizations have for months said the new features, including Google's "AI Overviews," siphon traffic away from their sites, eroding advertising and subscription revenue.

Penske, a family-owned media conglomerate led by Jay Penske and whose content attracts 120 million online visitors a month, said Google only includes publishers' websites in its search results if it can also use their articles in AI summaries.

Without the leverage, Google would have to pay publishers for the right to republish their work or use it to train its AI systems, the company said in the lawsuit. It added Google was able to impose such terms due to its search dominance, pointing to a federal court's finding last year that the tech giant held a near 90% share of the U.S. search market.

"We have a responsibility to proactively fight for the future of digital media and preserve its integrity – all of which is threatened by Google's current actions," Penske said.

It alleged that about 20% of Google searches that link to its sites now show AI Overviews, a share it expects to rise, and added that its affiliate revenue has fallen by more than a third from its peak by the end of 2024 as search traffic declined.

Online education company Chegg (CHGG.N) also sued Google in February, alleging that the search giant's AI-generated overviews were eroding demand for original content and undermining publishers' ability to compete.

Responding to Penske's lawsuit, Google said on Saturday that AI overviews offer a better experience to users and send traffic to a wider variety of websites.

“With AI Overviews, people find Search more helpful and use it more, creating new opportunities for content to be discovered. We will defend against these meritless claims." Google Spokesperson Jose Castaneda said.

A judge handed the company a rare antitrust win earlier this month by ruling that it will not have to sell its Chrome browser as part of efforts to open up competition in search.

The move disappointed some publishers and industry bodies, including the News/Media Alliance which has said the decision left publishers without the ability to opt out of AI overviews.

"All of the elements being negotiated with every other AI company doesn't apply to Google because they have the market power to not engage in those healthy practices," Danielle Coffey, CEO of the News/Media Alliance, a trade group representing more than 2,200 U.S.-based publishers, told Reuters on Friday.

"When you have the massive scale and market power that Google has, you are not obligated to abide by the same norms. That is the problem."

Coffey was referring to AI licensing deals firms such as ChatGPT-maker OpenAI have been signing with the likes of News Corp, Financial Times and The Atlantic. Google, whose Gemini chatbot competes with ChatGPT, has been slower to sign such deals.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/rolling-stone-billboard-owner-penske-sues-google-over-ai-overviews-2025-09-14/

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: ai addict



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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: charles XII

Is this about Net Neutrality

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,...,..,:,..,..


it's annoying how it puts out blatantly incorrect information at times

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:23 AM
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The internet as we know it is going to slowly die because of this. People will no longer click through to websites because 99%+ of web searches are simple questions with simple answers, and AI will answer them without the user needing to visit a website

But then once websites start to die off, AI won't have anything to reference to answer user questions. It's going to eat itself

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: OYT: Dinosaur Hunter ( )

it's like a metaphor for capitalism and stuff

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: obazla

Good. The internet was best when it was only white guys discussing esoteric hobbies and playing text-based rpgs like Gemstone III

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: ,...,.,,.,,..,,,,,,.....,


I agree, but the problem is that those web sites/services are the ones that are going to suffer and die off the most. Anything that is free to access and survives from a bit of ad revenue is going to become unviable unless it is privately funded as a public good/charity. The bigger the website (and all the big websites are shitty), the more likely they'll be able to stay afloat

The internet will slowly become a pay-to-play ecosystem where every website charges a fee/subscription for access. This may end up better in the long run, but there's going to at least be a very destructive period in which a ton of valuable websites die and are lost forever

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: concern boner

Xoxohth and Reddit will be the source of all knowledge on the internet?

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Date: September 15th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: daniel gay luis

I don't even use google anymore I just ask chatgpt stuff

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Date: September 15th, 2025 12:04 PM
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by that point, the AI will be good enough to do its own research and generate content. no need for content creators - AI will do it all and all those libs will be unemployed. it's going to be 180.

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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Gay Grandpa

Penske is an awesome company.

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Date: September 15th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: The Midwit Pundit's Assassination (No Future)

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Date: September 15th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: daniel gay luis



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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:56 AM
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Date: September 15th, 2025 1:46 PM
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Date: September 15th, 2025 1:46 PM
Author: RSF's dead brother

good. Google should lose this

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