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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
splenetic multi-billionaire
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Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
concupiscible digit ratio
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
splenetic multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
concupiscible digit ratio
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
splenetic multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
concupiscible digit ratio
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
splenetic multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
concupiscible digit ratio
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
splenetic multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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splenetic multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
spruce wrinkle
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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spruce wrinkle
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Fiercely-loyal fighting heaven dragon
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
splenetic multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
slate mexican police squad
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
splenetic multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
concupiscible digit ratio
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: concupiscible digit ratio

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: concupiscible digit ratio

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: concupiscible digit ratio

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: concupiscible digit ratio

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: concupiscible digit ratio

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: spruce wrinkle

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: spruce wrinkle



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal fighting heaven dragon

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: slate mexican police squad

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Crusty Stage Double Fault

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: elite primrose pisswyrm degenerate

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Dark business firm

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: splenetic multi-billionaire



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: elite primrose pisswyrm degenerate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Mischievous mildly autistic crackhouse gay wizard



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: concupiscible digit ratio

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: cerebral friendly grandma prole

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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