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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Cowardly Clear Goyim
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
provocative insane national
  12/16/25
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Cowardly Clear Goyim
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
demanding son of senegal
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
provocative insane national
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
demanding son of senegal
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
provocative insane national
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
demanding son of senegal
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Cowardly Clear Goyim
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
provocative insane national
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
demanding son of senegal
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
provocative insane national
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
demanding son of senegal
  12/17/25
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Cowardly Clear Goyim
  12/17/25
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provocative insane national
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
high-end gaming laptop house
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
provocative insane national
  12/16/25
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high-end gaming laptop house
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
red fiercely-loyal area windowlicker
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
provocative insane national
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Vivacious theater stage dog poop
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
provocative insane national
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Motley persian
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provocative insane national
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Cowardly Clear Goyim
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
white sound barrier marketing idea
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Jet Brunch Puppy
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provocative insane national
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white sound barrier marketing idea
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Cowardly Clear Goyim
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Cowardly Clear Goyim
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
demanding son of senegal
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Hyperactive Spectacular Space
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Cowardly Clear Goyim



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: provocative insane national

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Cowardly Clear Goyim

18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515486)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: demanding son of senegal

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: provocative insane national

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: demanding son of senegal

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: provocative insane national

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: demanding son of senegal

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Cowardly Clear Goyim

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: provocative insane national

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: demanding son of senegal

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: provocative insane national

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: demanding son of senegal

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Cowardly Clear Goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: provocative insane national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: high-end gaming laptop house

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: provocative insane national

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: high-end gaming laptop house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: red fiercely-loyal area windowlicker

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: provocative insane national

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Vivacious theater stage dog poop

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: provocative insane national

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Motley persian

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: provocative insane national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Cowardly Clear Goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516689)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: white sound barrier marketing idea

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Jet Brunch Puppy

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: provocative insane national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516412)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: white sound barrier marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Cowardly Clear Goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Cowardly Clear Goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516681)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: demanding son of senegal

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Hyperactive Spectacular Space

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515738)