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Is gerrymandering constitutional?
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:38 PM Author: Aqua incel I mean obviously it must be, if it's always been done and hasn't been challenged, but what specifically grants states the right to do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002135) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM Author: carnelian slippery base the courts by not stopping it?
as long as they don't have some racially driven motivation it's usually upheld. |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: Aqua incel So it's just something that's not discussed at all in the Constitution either way, and since it's not, then it must be allowed, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002162) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: carnelian slippery base no it is discussed, but it's very hard to stop based on the constitution or the Voting Rights Act. In fact, the VRA almost justifies gerrymandering because it's hard to tamper with majority minority districts. So a lot of Southern States have the justification to keep districts that are 90% black rather than a couple districts that are 45% black. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002186) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: Aqua incel so if VRA justifies it, why has it been working against shitlibs recently? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002210) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: Bipolar arousing crotch electric furnace B/c the VRA requires districts of at least 50% minority population (some courts will say more). If you have 50% blacks in a district, you can be sure there will be a bunch of Hispanics and poor whites too, who similarly vote Democratic, and you end up with 80-90% Dem districts mandated by law.
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: Bipolar arousing crotch electric furnace Liberals got rid of at-large districts and determining the manner of representative elections is given to the state legislatures in art I. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002153) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: vibrant startling multi-billionaire Actually Article I Section 4 Clause 1 allows Congress to redistrict if it so pleases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002194) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: Bipolar arousing crotch electric furnace Sure but that doesn't change the fact that gerrymandering isn't unconstitutional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002205) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:49 PM Author: Aqua incel Elaborate on this please (im a non-lawschool bro) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002221) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:54 PM Author: Bipolar arousing crotch electric furnace "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators."
Theoretically Congress could pass a law outlawing gerrymandering by some definition, but the default is that the states are allowed to do what they want. |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:58 PM Author: Aqua incel wtf, did they really misspell "choosing"? that's pretty lulzy
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Date: November 8th, 2012 6:00 PM Author: Aqua incel "Liberals got rid of at-large districts" - what does this mean? What are at-large districts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002313) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) Jurisdiction-covering districts (so for Congress, statewide), and the term is particularly used where (1) their are also subset districts and/or (2) the at-large district is multimember.
Congress eliminated these for itself (i.e., for federal House seats) ages ago -- like pre-Civil War -- requiring contiguous single-member districts that collectively cover the entire state; scotus required those districts (and all districts, not just congressional, where the body to which the candidates are being elected acts on a collective voting basis (basically: legislative districts, but not judicial or executive ones)) to be equipopulous, although, fun fact, the standard for equal population is actually *way* more demanding for federal House districts than it is for any other district.
Most of the modern action on at-large districts has been in the context of city/county council seats, where they were once popular, but the VRA has made having them very difficult. |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:43 PM Author: concupiscible main people hell As is typical with con law and its bullshit, it is not reviewable unless it is too bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002175) |
Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM Author: crusty office bbw Districts don't draw themselves bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002138) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:40 PM Author: vibrant startling multi-billionaire Congress needs to basically pass a law mandating that districts be computer-generated ... but LOL @ Congress passing such a law
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: crusty office bbw Generated by Karl Rove's computer, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002156) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: carnelian slippery base cr.
Congress was elected by these gerrymandered districts, they have no incentive to stop this. just like they will never support term limits. |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:46 PM Author: vibrant startling multi-billionaire Congressional term limits are of questionable constitutionality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002197) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: fragrant plaza gaming laptop District borders should be geographically drawn and not used wildly as random political tools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002218) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: Aqua incel agreed, although "geographically drawn" seems to be very subjective as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002231) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: vibrant startling multi-billionaire this could be easily achieved with a computer algorithm that tries to minimize a measure called 'distortion.' This is a mathematically well-studied problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002247) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 7:53 PM Author: Aqua incel hm. somehow i doubt congress would pass something which would require doing something via a computer algorithm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22002982) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:56 PM Author: Aqua incel This seem to be the cr way to do it:
http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/Gerrymandering-Not-in-Iowa-1336319.php
Why cant more states do it like Iowa? |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 8:30 PM Author: Aqua incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#22003267) |
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Date: April 24th, 2025 6:05 PM Author: Seedy Curious Gas Station "bad things that happen in the anglosphere DONT COUNT!" i live in a NIGGER-FREE NEIGHBORHOOD!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#48877953) |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Seedy Curious Gas Station another fucktarded cumskin caught gerrymandering, after getting assraped by NYUUG LOLLERCAUST:
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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2479633&forum_id=2#48912251 |
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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5479324&forum_id=2#47315375 |
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Date: May 9th, 2025 12:12 AM Author: Seedy Curious Gas Station he uses this same trick all the time. he is constantly trying to point out "contradictions" in peoples opinions then he will suddenly start saying "xo says this" "cumskins say that" while cherry picking opinions from a pool of the entirety of xo poasters. its lulzy. like sorry nyuug, are you forgetting that this entire board hates you and there are 1000 diff opinions floating around from the past 15 years and varying things people say about you? obviously it isn't all going to be consistent. http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452555&forum_id=2#47115417
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Date: May 19th, 2025 4:13 AM Author: Seedy Curious Gas Station
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Date: May 25th, 2025 11:06 PM Author: Seedy Curious Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#48961504) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 9:42 PM Author: Seedy Curious Gas Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#49173181) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 9:31 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#49214924) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:41 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#49215532) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#49215556) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: house-broken sapphire stage lol I forgot libs started this anti-gerrymandering campaign as soon as they won in 2012 because they thought they deserved the House too. Almost worked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#49141615) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Seedy Curious Gas Station you mean fucktarded cumskins who gerrymander their way out of every nyuug rapage, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2,#49141619) |