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Date: April 27th, 2012 10:27 PM Author: wonderful coral preventive strike
lol, i'm at home right now. My dad said "oh great. he's got a white GF. surprise surprise"
i was like LOL
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Date: April 27th, 2012 10:17 PM Author: turquoise rehab
49ers are solid
Rams upgraded today
Arizona was ok
Seattle is going to be worse relative to everyone else
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Date: April 27th, 2012 10:18 PM Author: adventurous mewling senate ladyboy
in what universe was Arizona OK
Rams are brutally terrible
niners will run that division for 5 years plus
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Date: November 11th, 2012 8:47 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Offensive ROY candidate in Russell Wilson
Defensive ROY candidates in Bruce Irvin and Bobby Wagner
lol
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Date: December 16th, 2012 6:47 PM Author: Thriller amethyst parlour cuckoldry
Rudolph fumbles his mother's corpse
Seattle D recovers and fucks it
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Date: January 27th, 2013 7:57 PM Author: confused crackhouse legend
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8855506/mel-kiper-regrading-2012-nfl-draft
Regrading the 2012 NFL draft
Few drafts 'improved' more than Seattle's, but many look different today
Seattle Seahawks
Post-draft grade: C-
Summary: Give John Schneider and Pete Carroll all the credit in the world. I had major questions on value and even need with some of their picks, and in most cases, the Seahawks proved me wrong. At the time I wrote, "Let's be clear: I think the Seahawks drafted guys they really wanted, and with a plan in mind for how to use them." Did they ever. Russell Wilson might be the defining pick of the draft, already a star and a guy Seattle got at No. 75 overall. I really liked Wilson as a prospect, and said on the set I thought he'd be "a great test case" for short quarterbacks. My question of the pick also had to do with the fact that Seattle had acquired Matt Flynn. If Wilson had been 6-foot-2, I think he would have been a top-5 pick -- said it then, say it now. Is that evaluation still reasonable? Has Wilson proven that short QBs can't all be lumped together? Ultimately, evaluators will still have questions about whether short QBs can succeed because they simply have so few of them to evaluate. The sample size for guys at Wilson's size who've succeeded as he has is so small that not only is Wilson almost unique, I don't see a QB like him coming along for years. But there's no way around the fact that he was a great pick, perhaps the best of the draft when you consider where he was taken.
I also had questions about the value of Bobby Wagner at No. 47 overall, but he was a home run, an impact starter and a guy who will be a fixture for years to come. Robert Turbin, Jeremy Lane and Greg Scruggs also look like great picks. The one pick I really questioned then and still feel the same way about is Bruce Irvin at No. 15 overall. There's no question Irvin can rush the passer, but that's really all he can do, and I still don't see him as a good value at that spot because he's so one-dimensional. I wrote then, "I wouldn't be surprised if Irvin gets 10 sacks in 2012, but that's really his game. He's not a three-down player yet." He still isn't, and is a total liability against the run, as we saw against Atlanta in the playoffs. He finished with 8.0 sacks, but has plenty of development left if he wants to become more than a situational player. I think you want more of a complete player at that point in the draft. Still, this was an exceptional draft, a very good one in terms of immediate value and likely a defining one for the franchise based on Wilson alone.
New grade: A
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Date: September 15th, 2013 12:26 AM Author: Purple Shrine
Date: September 15th, 2013 12:23 AM
Author: Rudolph
Bruce Irvin is a head case and will be gone in 3 years. Russell Wilson is a fluke. He will not be a starter in 3 years. Might be a backup for a while.
Bobby Wagner is the only guy in that draft who will be a starter in 4 years.
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Date: November 17th, 2013 6:58 PM Author: Erotic Ruddy Chapel
RW3: 12.8 YPA, 151.4 passer rating today
Rudolph: sucking his bookie's dick so he can keep his thumbs
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Date: November 17th, 2013 7:49 PM Author: twisted sound barrier
It's too early to tell still, but let's do some analysis.
1st round pick Bruce Irvin: 2 sacks (tied for 120th) and 20 tackles. Not good.
2nd round pick Bobby Wagner: 1.5 sacks and 60 tackles (tied for 45th). OK.
3rd Round pick Russell Wilson: 17th in yards passing and 10th in completion percentage. Good.
4th Round picks: Robert Turbin: 154 yards rushing. Sucks.
Jaye Howard: Cut by Seahawks in 2013
5th Round pick Korey Toomer: Cut by Seahwaks in 2012. Practice squad/IR
6th Round picks Jeremy Lane: 7 tackles. Sucks.
Winston Guy: Cut by Seahawks in 2013
7th Round picks JR Sweezy: Sucks.
Gregg Scruggs: Cut by Seahawks in 2013.
So, at the end of the day, this entire draft gives Seattle 3 players: Irvin, Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson.
Bobby Wagner looks like an OK player who will stick around as a starter. Irvin is injury prone, a head case, and has not produced at all in his 2nd year. So, really, it all comes down to Wilson who is way overhyped and I maintain is not that good.
In sum, FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS.
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Date: December 1st, 2013 8:31 PM Author: Purple Shrine
JR Sweezy is a starting guard
Irvin was suspended for 4 games and moved to linebacker
They got 4 starters and arguable the most valuable QB (per dollar) in the NFL out of the draft
Worst ever indeed
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Date: December 2nd, 2013 9:22 PM Author: domesticated garrison idiot
bobby wagner was 2nd in voting for defensive rookie of the year
sweezy didn't even play offense until he got to seattle
lane might actually start on half the teams in the league
scruggs is still on the team, just injured
love the cherry picked russell wilson stats - don't forget the 105 qb rating this year, 8.6 ypa, oh and 21-6 regular season record.
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Date: December 2nd, 2013 9:21 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Russell Wilson becomes 4th QB in NFL history to record 20 passing TDs in each of his first two seasons.
Marino, Manning, Dalton are the other 3
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Date: December 2nd, 2013 9:56 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Dalton was a first round pick and starts for a playoff bound AFC team. He is a decent starter in the league.
That != "Historical Worst Bust Evah"
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Date: January 11th, 2014 9:22 PM Author: twisted sound barrier
From today's playoff game:
1st round pick Bruce Irvin: 0 sacks, 2 tackles. GARBAGE.
2nd round pick Bobby Wagner: 9 tackles. 1 for loss. Good game.
3rd Round pick Russell Wilson: 9 for 18. 0 TDs 0 INTS. Sacked 3 times. 67.5 rating. Significantly below average.
4th Round picks: Robert Turbin: 3 carries for 9 yards. No return yards. GARBAGE.
Jaye Howard: Cut by Seahawks in 2013
5th Round pick Korey Toomer: Cut by Seahwaks in 2012. Practice squad/IR
6th Round picks Jeremy Lane: 1 tackle. Almost as good as the number 1 pick.
Winston Guy: Cut by Seahawks in 2013
7th Round picks JR Sweezy: GARBAGE.
Gregg Scruggs: Cut by Seahawks in 2013.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1934833&forum_id=2,#24817970)
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Date: January 19th, 2014 8:16 PM Author: twisted sound barrier
At the half of today's NFC Championship game:
1st round pick Bruce Irvin: 0 sacks, 1 tackles. GARBAGE.
2nd round pick Bobby Wagner: 7 tackles. 0 for loss. OK game.
3rd Round pick Russell Wilson: 8 for 12. 0 TDs 0 INTS 1 FL. Sacked 4 times. One fluke pass and the rest has been garbage.
4th Round picks: Robert Turbin: 0 stats. GARBAGE.
Jaye Howard: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013
5th Round pick Korey Toomer: Still cut by Seahwaks in 2012. Practice squad/IR
6th Round picks Jeremy Lane: 0 stats. Garbage.
Winston Guy: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013
7th Round picks JR Sweezy: GARBAGE.
Gregg Scruggs: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1934833&forum_id=2,#24862848)
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Date: January 19th, 2014 10:51 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Starting QB with the lowest salary in the NFL
2 starting linebackers
1 starting CB
1 starting RG
Backup running back
SUPER BOWL BOUND TEAM
WORST BUST EVER
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Date: February 3rd, 2014 11:37 AM Author: Cowardly center
I came. Here. Let me do you round by round thing one time:
1st round pick Bruce Irvin: Super Bowl Champion
2nd round pick Bobby Wagner: Super Bowl Champion
3rd Round pick Russell Wilson: Super Bowl Champion
4th Round picks: Robert Turbin: Super Bowl Champion
Jaye Howard: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013
5th Round pick Korey Toomer: Super Bowl Champion
6th Round picks Jeremy Lane: Super Bowl Champion
Winston Guy: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013
7th Round picks JR Sweezy: Super Bowl Champion
Gregg Scruggs: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013.
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Date: February 3rd, 2014 11:55 AM Author: twisted sound barrier
Super Bowl stats from the 2012 Draft:
1st round pick Bruce Irvin: 0 sacks, 2 tackles. GARBAGE.
2nd round pick Bobby Wagner: 10 tackles. 0 for loss. OK game.
3rd Round pick Russell Wilson: 18 for 25. 2 TDs 0 INTS 206 yards. Very good game.
4th Round picks: Robert Turbin: 9 carries 25 yards. GARBAGE.
Jaye Howard: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013
5th Round pick Korey Toomer: Still cut by Seahwaks in 2012. Practice squad/IR
6th Round picks Jeremy Lane: 2 tackles. Garbage.
Winston Guy: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013
7th Round picks JR Sweezy: GARBAGE.
Gregg Scruggs: Still cut by Seahawks in 2013.
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Date: February 5th, 2014 7:20 PM Author: amber autistic base kitty
No. 1: Seattle Seahawks
After one of the worst picks in the first round I can ever remember, the Seattle Seahawks didn't draft any positions of need or draft for the future.
Pete Carroll is proving why he didn’t make it in the NFL the first time. Not only was Bruce Irvin a reach at No. 15, the Seahawks proved they were oblivious to their madness by celebrating their selection.
As if the day wasn’t bad enough, Seattle selecting Russell Wilson, a QB that doesn’t fit their offense at all, was by far the worst move of the draft. With the two worst moves of the draft, Seattle is the only team that received an F on draft day.
Grade: F
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1165320-2012-nfl-draft-grades-power-ranking-teams-that-failed-on-draft-day
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Date: April 23rd, 2014 10:29 PM Author: Chrome comical mood
Super Bowl champ
will slay lots of pussy
hmm
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Date: May 8th, 2014 7:18 PM Author: twisted sound barrier
Eat shit pumo.
Their 2nd round pick is an OK player and their 3rd round pick is a system QB.
Everyone else sucks.
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Date: May 8th, 2014 7:32 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Russell Wilson is by far the most valuable player, $-wise, in the NFL. Him alone in this draft makes it a home run. Having any contributing players besides him is gravy.
Also:
http://youtu.be/YNHqKEZ_Rlw?t=4m34s
509/800 63.6% 6,475YDS 8.1AVG 52TD 19INT 101RAT with 5 rushing touchdowns and 1,028 rushing yards in 2 years
LOL @ System QB. He's a better Fran Tarkenton
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Date: May 8th, 2014 7:37 PM Author: Purple Shrine
You could say the same about Brady or Manning. What's your point?
He's unequivocally not a system QB though
EDIT: In any case, getting a mid-tier starting QB with a 3rd round pick is a great outcome
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Date: May 8th, 2014 7:40 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Date: May 8th, 2014 7:40 PM
Author: Rudolph
So, what you are saying is they got lucky picking a QB in the 3rd round? Agreed.
Also, if you put Brady or Manning in Jacksonville, they would have made the playoffs.
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Date: May 8th, 2014 7:57 PM Author: harsh marketing idea
The thread that keeps on giving.
Never change, Rudolph.
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Date: May 9th, 2014 12:16 AM Author: magical chocolate haunted graveyard
You remember that kid in law school who tried really hard to stick to his guns even when he started out with something questionable, so the prof would keep testing that consistency until he said something absurd? And by the end he's arguing to overturn McCulloch v. Maryland or something?
That's Rudolph ITT.
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Date: May 9th, 2014 1:07 AM Author: magical chocolate haunted graveyard
That "total fucking bust" was a top 50 LB by Approximate Value and was a regular starter on by far the best defense in the league.
Wagner is, as you know, a fucking stud.
Their 25-year-old quarterback was top-ten by any conceivable statistical measure.
Not only is not the "worst draft ever," it's going to go down as one of the best of recent memory w/r/t its first couple years, behind only Bears '04 (Harris/Johnson/Berrian/Vasher), Cardinals '04 (Fitzgerald/Dansby/Dockett), Saints '06 (Bush/Harper/Evans/Colston), Niners '10 (Davis/Iupati/Bowman), and I'm probably forgetting one or two more.
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Date: May 20th, 2014 12:30 AM Author: Cowardly center
Pro Bowl quarterback Russell Wilson (third round), middle linebacker and two-time leading tackler Bobby Wagner (second), linebacker/pass-rush specialist Bruce Irvin (first), starting right guard J.R. Sweezy (seventh) and nickel back and special-teams standout Jeremy Lane (sixth). That's not even counting poaching Kearse for nothing.
Yeah, historically worst draft of all time, dumbshit.
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Date: December 22nd, 2014 11:11 PM Author: Erotic Ruddy Chapel
odds Russell Wilson has seen this thread?
http://t.co/HuOjkuOYVa
pwn pwn pwn
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Date: December 27th, 2014 2:25 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Funnily enough, it was the 49ers with the worst draft bust ever that year
http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/2/14/5410350/49ers-draft-class-2012-aj-jenkins-lamichael-james-joe-looney-tony-jerod-eddie
Of their 7 selections, only one (Joe Looney) is still on the team, and he doesn't suit up for games. Zero players contributed significantly their rookie year, and only two played any meaningful snaps in their second year.
In all, the 49ers draft class played 276 snaps COMBINED.
The Seahawks, on the other hand, drafted their most valuable offensive player (Wilson) and defensive player (Wagner) that year
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Date: December 28th, 2014 6:57 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Bruce Irvin pick 6
Second one this year
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Date: January 18th, 2015 3:59 PM Author: Angry organic girlfriend
The Seahawks turnaround begins at roughly 12:18 left in the 2nd quarter.
Date: January 18th, 2015 3:57 PM
Author: Rudolph
I told you guys Russell Wilson fucking blowz.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1934833&forum_id=2,#27139439)
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Date: January 18th, 2015 5:53 PM Author: twisted sound barrier
Wilson's stats with 4 minutes left in NFC Championship game:
8/22 75 3.4 0 4 4-24 7.0
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Date: January 18th, 2015 6:47 PM Author: Hairraiser Peach Tanning Salon
wilson's final passing line through those last 4 minutes and OT (we'll even ignore the TD run etc. which came after this post): 14/29 209 7.2 1 4 5-25 44.3
meaning that he went
6/7 134 19.1 1 0 1-1 158.33
after this. simply unbelievable.
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Date: January 30th, 2015 1:13 PM Author: adventurous mewling senate ladyboy
damn it I came here to post this.
the front page headline is "Seattle's Clever Choices:
Several surprising picks in the 2012 draft set the Seahawks on their Super Bowl path."
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Date: November 2nd, 2015 10:44 AM Author: twisted sound barrier
REMINDER: The only GOOD player out of this draft is Bobby Wagner.
The rest are average or worse than average.
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Date: November 2nd, 2015 11:01 PM Author: fragrant toaster
lol. wagner is better than good. keep deluding yourself.
and wilson is an above average starter. you ask any team where they'd draft a player if they knew he'd be as good as wilson, and they'd say top 3. seahawks got him in the 3rd round.
i like how you think that arguing the fact that there aren't three hall of famers here, that means somehow seattle didn't have an exceptionally great draft in 2012.
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Date: November 11th, 2015 3:15 PM Author: Thriller amethyst parlour cuckoldry
From ESPN article on worst contracts ever, discussing the Percy Harvin deal
"Fortunately for the Seahawks, the failure of the Harvin and Flynn contracts pales in comparison to the team's draft successes with players such as Wilson, Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor and Bobby Wagner. Seattle made it to consecutive Super Bowls, including its victorious romp over Denver in XLVIII."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14047370/ranking-25-worst-contracts-nfl-history-part-2
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Date: December 13th, 2015 4:22 PM Author: fragrant toaster
The lulziest part is that if Rudolph applied the same cynical view to everyone in the NFL that he does to 2012 Seattle draft picks, the league would have 10 VERY GOOD players, 40 OKAY players and the rest of the league would be PURE SHIT.
If any team knew they'd get Bobby Wager's talent, they'd draft him top 5. Seattle got him in round two. If any team knew they'd get Russell Wilson's talent, they'd draft him top 3. Seattle got him in round 3. Those two picks alone make it an incredible draft, and add to that Irvin, Tupin and Sweezy are more than serviceable, this draft was an insane win. Even if you think Wilson is only an average starting QB, it's still at least 95th percentile draft. And if you think he's good (as most do), it's really one of the best in the past decade.
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Date: March 10th, 2016 4:36 PM Author: Thriller amethyst parlour cuckoldry
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/707889150838640640
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‏@RapSheet
#Seahawks '12 draft class has 6 players who got huge 2nd contracts: Bruce Irvin, Wagner, Wilson, Jaye Howard, Jeremy Lane, JR Sweezy. Strong
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Date: April 8th, 2016 3:36 AM Author: bull headed dopamine
Best class: Seattle Seahawks
Much like the Broncos, this class initially got a frigid reception. The composite grade from five of the major websites covering the draft averaged out to about a C-minus, a scorching example of why instantly grading NFL draft classes is perilous. In hindsight, Seattle's draft was an A-plus, leaving a lot of egg on the faces of critics (and fans, who graded the class a "C" on NFL.com).
Three picks were instant hits and significant foundational pieces to a Super Bowl win: Linebacker Bruce Irvin (first round), linebacker Bobby Wagner (second round) and quarterback Russell Wilson (third round). Seventh-round defensive end J.R. Sweezy was converted into a solid offensive guard and started three seasons (including both Super Bowl appearances) before departing to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as a coveted free agent. Meanwhile, sixth-round cornerback Jeremy Lane has been injury prone, but had some moments. And fourth-round defensive end Jaye Howard has been a productive NFL starter for the Kansas City Chiefs. Unfortunately, Seattle cut him after a disappointing rookie season, allowing him to blossom elsewhere.
But here is what is amazing about this class: the other four picks in the class – running back Robert Turbin (fourth round), linebacker Korey Toomer (fifth), safety Winston Guy (sixth) and defensive end Greg Scruggs (seventh) – all played in the NFL last season. That means Seattle's entire 10-player draft class was on a roster four years later. There aren't many double-digit draft classes that last four NFL seasons. That, along with the star power, makes this one special.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/here-s-why--12-draft-grades-for-broncos--seahawks-and-49ers-were-comically-bad--064646227.html
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Date: November 13th, 2016 11:47 PM Author: harsh marketing idea
R. Wilson: 25/37, 348 yds, 3TD, 0 int. Beat the Patriots on the road.
HISTORIC BUST
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Date: April 24th, 2017 4:09 PM Author: Cracking shitlib
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/sports/nfl-draft-values/?utm_term=.bd0e37b6b331
The 2012 Seahawks are the best here, and it isn't close. The 10 players they drafted produced a remarkable 263 AV over their first five seasons. The 2004 Chargers are second (since Eli Manning and Philip Rivers were a draft-day swap we’re counting them toward the teams they actually played for), followed by the 2008 Falcons class that included Matt Ryan.
With an AV gap of +70, Wilson is the single best pick in our data set.
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Date: November 26th, 2019 4:59 PM Author: harsh marketing idea
So, can anyone identify a *better* draft class than the 2012 Seahawks?
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Date: May 1st, 2020 12:59 PM Author: twisted sound barrier
With caveats.
Bruce Irvin was a bust. That was their 1st round pick.
Bobby Wagner obviously proved to be a great 2nd round pick and a great LB.
Russell Wilson is a good QB. I still don't love the guy, but was obviously a great pick in the 3rd round.
The rest of their draft was bad.
That said, drafts are judged on the 2 best players that come out and obviously, under that metric, it was a great draft - especially for 2nd and 3rd round picks.
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Date: May 1st, 2020 1:02 PM Author: twisted sound barrier
Yeah - I don't like they guy. That's my opinion.
That said, he is obviously a good QB and a great one for a 3rd round pick.
Also, this wasn't last year.
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Date: May 1st, 2020 2:48 PM Author: gold stock car
Look at the rest of the first round. He has a better career than the vast majority of them.
1 15 Seattle Seahawks Bruce Irvin DE West Virginia Big East from Philadelphia [R1 - 9]
1 16 New York Jets Quinton Coples DE North Carolina ACC
1 17 Cincinnati Bengals Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama SEC from Oakland [R1 - 10]
1 18 San Diego Chargers Melvin Ingram † LB South Carolina SEC
1 19 Chicago Bears Shea McClellin DE Boise State MW
1 20 Tennessee Titans Kendall Wright WR Baylor Big 12
1 21 New England Patriots Chandler Jones † DE Syracuse Big East from Cincinnati [R1 - 11]
1 22 Cleveland Browns Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State Big 12 from Atlanta [R1 - 12]
1 23 Detroit Lions Riley Reiff OT Iowa Big Ten
1 24 Pittsburgh Steelers David DeCastro † G Stanford Pac-12
1 25 New England Patriots Dont'a Hightower † LB Alabama SEC from Denver [R1 - 13]
1 26 Houston Texans Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois Big Ten
1 27 Cincinnati Bengals Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin Big Ten from New Orleans via New England [R1 - 14]
1 28 Green Bay Packers Nick Perry LB USC Pac-12
1 29 Minnesota Vikings Harrison Smith † S Notre Dame Ind. (FBS) from Baltimore [R1 - 15]
1 30 San Francisco 49ers A. J. Jenkins WR Illinois Big Ten
1 31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Doug Martin † RB Boise State MW from New England via Denver [R1 - 16]
1 32 New York Giants David Wilson RB Virginia Tech ACC
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Date: May 1st, 2020 2:59 PM Author: Purple Shrine
Date: May 1st, 2020 2:55 PM
Author: Rudolph
LOL. He didn't start a fucking game his first year, you fucking idiot. And he wasn't productive.
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He was productive
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Date: April 28th, 2022 2:48 PM Author: Cracking shitlib
No team has gotten more value out of the NFL draft over the past decade than the Seattle Seahawks -- thanks to an elite 2012 class -- and no team has drafted less value than the New York Jets, according to our study of the last 10 drafts.
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Best class from 2012-2021 drafts: 2012. This was easily the best draft in team history, not just the past decade. And that would arguably be the case based solely on the two potential Hall of Famers they found on Day 2 that year: Russell Wilson (Round 3) and Bobby Wagner (Round 2). Seattle's 10 picks produced three other starters on the 2013 team that won Super Bowl XLVIII and the 2014 team that nearly repeated. Bruce Irvin (15th overall) has 52 career sacks, Jeremy Lane (Round 6) was the nickelback in the Legion of Boom and guard J.R. Sweezy (Round 7) has started over 100 NFL games. -- Brady Henderson
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33297949/nfl-draft-which-teams-gotten-best-value-2012-rank-all-32
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Date: August 25th, 2023 8:24 PM Author: Purple Shrine
1 Bruce Irvin - Pro Bowl DE
2 Bobby Wagner - HOF LB
3 Russell Wilson - borderline HOF QB
4 Robert Turbin - capable 3rd down RB
5 Jaye Howard - 5 year career as DT
5 Korey Toomer - 6 year career as LB
6 Winston Guy - 6 year career as S
6 Jeremy Lane - starting nickelback
7 JR Sweezy - 9 year career as a starting G
7 George Scruggs - 4 year career as DE
Wilson then traded for 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 1 fifth, QB Drew Lock, and TE Noah Fant
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