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Question about European feudalism.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: cordovan shitlib shrine Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: impertinent den persian just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: impertinent den persian (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: impertinent den persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49589879) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Crystalline Menage Newt Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Bronze site Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Crystalline Menage Newt (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Bronze site They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Crystalline Menage Newt read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: aqua hell corn cake Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: cracking quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: grizzly athletic conference what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: racy thirsty jew cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: slippery bateful halford I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: aqua hell corn cake teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: slap-happy senate police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: fantasy-prone address i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: bearded cerise voyeur Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Concupiscible orchid nowag parlour really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: glassy stirring field It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: boyish stage twinkling uncleanness it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: glassy stirring field Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Concupiscible orchid nowag parlour actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |