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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Carnelian hilarious heaven
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
shimmering dashing garrison
  06/15/18
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concupiscible chad forum
  06/15/18
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concupiscible chad forum
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Vivacious nowag telephone
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Fiercely-loyal lake site
  10/06/21
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  02/12/22
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Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
bat shit crazy church marketing idea
  06/15/18
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concupiscible chad forum
  06/15/18
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dull rigpig filthpig
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
bat shit crazy church marketing idea
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Talented alcoholic prole address
  06/15/18
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coiffed party of the first part stage
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
concupiscible chad forum
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Mind-boggling church building preventive strike
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Elite zombie-like messiness
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
spectacular plaza black woman
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Vivacious nowag telephone
  06/15/18
sounds 180
bat shit crazy church marketing idea
  06/15/18
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coiffed party of the first part stage
  06/15/18
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dull rigpig filthpig
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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concupiscible chad forum
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shimmering dashing garrison
  06/15/18
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dull rigpig filthpig
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
dull rigpig filthpig
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spectacular plaza black woman
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effete laughsome yarmulke
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dull rigpig filthpig
  02/15/21
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effete laughsome yarmulke
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  10/06/21
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
citrine roommate ticket booth
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Silver adulterous trailer park
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Silver adulterous trailer park
  06/15/18
Explain
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  09/04/18
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effete laughsome yarmulke
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Racy Free-loading Shrine
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
medicated private investor
  06/15/18
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  02/12/21
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diverse aggressive son of senegal cuckoldry
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dull rigpig filthpig
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Crawly floppy hominid meetinghouse
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
smoky clown idiot
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Razzle Glassy Business Firm
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Razzle Glassy Business Firm
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Grizzly Wonderful Main People Macaca
  02/12/21
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diverse aggressive son of senegal cuckoldry
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Crawly floppy hominid meetinghouse
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Grizzly Wonderful Main People Macaca
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
jet-lagged lettuce piazza
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Grizzly Wonderful Main People Macaca
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
jet-lagged lettuce piazza
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
smoky clown idiot
  02/12/21
lol no
Cowardly hunting ground
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
rose institution cuckold
  02/15/21
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  06/29/21
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
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Soul-stirring Senate Digit Ratio
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
Walnut bawdyhouse
  10/06/21
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heady turquoise famous landscape painting
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Carnelian hilarious heaven

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: shimmering dashing garrison

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: concupiscible chad forum



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: concupiscible chad forum



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Vivacious nowag telephone

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal lake site

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43955203)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: bat shit crazy church marketing idea

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: concupiscible chad forum



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: dull rigpig filthpig



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: bat shit crazy church marketing idea

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Talented alcoholic prole address

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: coiffed party of the first part stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253024)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: concupiscible chad forum

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Mind-boggling church building preventive strike

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Elite zombie-like messiness

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: spectacular plaza black woman

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Vivacious nowag telephone

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: bat shit crazy church marketing idea

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: coiffed party of the first part stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253030)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: dull rigpig filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253696)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Cream potus native

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253012)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: concupiscible chad forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253073)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: shimmering dashing garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253597)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: dull rigpig filthpig



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: dull rigpig filthpig

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: spectacular plaza black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253708)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: effete laughsome yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254559)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: dull rigpig filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41949790)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: effete laughsome yarmulke



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#49178251)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: citrine roommate ticket booth

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Silver adulterous trailer park

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Silver adulterous trailer park

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36256523)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: effete laughsome yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254823)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Racy Free-loading Shrine

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: medicated private investor

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: diverse aggressive son of senegal cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933826)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: dull rigpig filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43271055)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Crawly floppy hominid meetinghouse

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: smoky clown idiot

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Razzle Glassy Business Firm

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Razzle Glassy Business Firm

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Grizzly Wonderful Main People Macaca

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: diverse aggressive son of senegal cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Crawly floppy hominid meetinghouse

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Grizzly Wonderful Main People Macaca

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: jet-lagged lettuce piazza

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Grizzly Wonderful Main People Macaca

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: jet-lagged lettuce piazza

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: smoky clown idiot

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Cowardly hunting ground

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: rose institution cuckold

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#42703414)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231403)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Senate Digit Ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231440)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Walnut bawdyhouse

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: heady turquoise famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43955207)