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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
jet plaza jewess
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
pearl useless brakes tanning salon
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
red bossy roast beef
  06/15/18
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Idiotic arousing boltzmann
  06/15/18
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Idiotic arousing boltzmann
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Fear-inspiring Home
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
angry thriller coffee pot
  10/06/21
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jet plaza jewess
  02/12/22
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jet plaza jewess
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Cyan irradiated jew box office
  06/15/18
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Idiotic arousing boltzmann
  06/15/18
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Coral friendly grandma weed whacker
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Cyan irradiated jew box office
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Maniacal impressive quadroon bawdyhouse
  06/15/18
...
Ultramarine Bat Shit Crazy Chad Juggernaut
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Idiotic arousing boltzmann
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Chocolate Floppy Rehab
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Marvelous field
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
snowy filthy locale
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Fear-inspiring Home
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Cyan irradiated jew box office
  06/15/18
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Ultramarine Bat Shit Crazy Chad Juggernaut
  06/15/18
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Coral friendly grandma weed whacker
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
razzle-dazzle dark theatre son of senegal
  06/15/18
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Idiotic arousing boltzmann
  06/15/18
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red bossy roast beef
  06/15/18
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Coral friendly grandma weed whacker
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
Coral friendly grandma weed whacker
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snowy filthy locale
  06/15/18
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Anal keepsake machete
  06/15/18
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Coral friendly grandma weed whacker
  02/15/21
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Anal keepsake machete
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
jet plaza jewess
  10/06/21
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jet plaza jewess
  01/18/25
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180 Elastic Band Halford
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
insanely creepy place of business
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
jet plaza jewess
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Slap-happy Half-breed Center
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
jet plaza jewess
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Slap-happy Half-breed Center
  06/15/18
Explain
jet plaza jewess
  06/15/18
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jet plaza jewess
  06/16/18
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jet plaza jewess
  09/04/18
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Anal keepsake machete
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
erotic personal credit line
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Mentally impaired iridescent lodge sex offender
  06/15/18
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jet plaza jewess
  02/12/21
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Embarrassed to the bone gas station
  02/12/21
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Coral friendly grandma weed whacker
  02/15/21
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jet plaza jewess
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
glittery bronze stead
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Cordovan irate dingle berry
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
jet plaza jewess
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
alcoholic pisswyrm
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
jet plaza jewess
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
alcoholic pisswyrm
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
jet plaza jewess
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
comical copper potus
  02/12/21
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Embarrassed to the bone gas station
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
glittery bronze stead
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
comical copper potus
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
pink area
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
comical copper potus
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
pink area
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Cordovan irate dingle berry
  02/12/21
lol no
Razzmatazz frisky abode
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
pea-brained nibblets generalized bond
  02/15/21
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jet plaza jewess
  06/29/21
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jet plaza jewess
  10/06/21
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Bearded citrine pistol hall
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
heady psychic filthpig
  10/06/21
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jet plaza jewess
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: pearl useless brakes tanning salon

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: red bossy roast beef

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Idiotic arousing boltzmann



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Idiotic arousing boltzmann



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Home

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: angry thriller coffee pot

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Cyan irradiated jew box office

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Idiotic arousing boltzmann



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Coral friendly grandma weed whacker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Cyan irradiated jew box office

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Maniacal impressive quadroon bawdyhouse

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Ultramarine Bat Shit Crazy Chad Juggernaut



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Idiotic arousing boltzmann

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Chocolate Floppy Rehab

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Marvelous field

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: snowy filthy locale

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Home

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Cyan irradiated jew box office

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Ultramarine Bat Shit Crazy Chad Juggernaut



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Coral friendly grandma weed whacker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle dark theatre son of senegal

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Idiotic arousing boltzmann



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: red bossy roast beef



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Coral friendly grandma weed whacker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Coral friendly grandma weed whacker

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: snowy filthy locale



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Anal keepsake machete



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Coral friendly grandma weed whacker



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Anal keepsake machete



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: 180 Elastic Band Halford



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: insanely creepy place of business

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Slap-happy Half-breed Center

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Slap-happy Half-breed Center

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Anal keepsake machete



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: erotic personal credit line

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Mentally impaired iridescent lodge sex offender

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone gas station



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Coral friendly grandma weed whacker



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: glittery bronze stead

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Cordovan irate dingle berry

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: alcoholic pisswyrm

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: alcoholic pisswyrm

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: comical copper potus

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone gas station



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: glittery bronze stead

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: comical copper potus

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: pink area

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: comical copper potus

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: pink area

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Cordovan irate dingle berry

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Razzmatazz frisky abode

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: pea-brained nibblets generalized bond

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Bearded citrine pistol hall



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: heady psychic filthpig

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2,#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: jet plaza jewess



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