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Question about European feudalism.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: passionate clown Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49463581) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49484240) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49495268) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Vermilion Aphrodisiac Faggot Firefighter Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49545665) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: milky outnumbered stage Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Marvelous Jet Electric Furnace Address Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: milky outnumbered stage (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Marvelous Jet Electric Furnace Address They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: milky outnumbered stage read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: federal dragon Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Floppy toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: House-broken Incel Senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: stirring candlestick maker what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Cerise mentally impaired friendly grandma mad-dog skullcap cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Ivory water buffalo elastic band I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: federal dragon teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: hateful know-it-all people who are hurt stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: coral irradiated messiness i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Chartreuse stimulating brunch telephone Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: concupiscible theatre really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Blue Fragrant Home Jew It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: lilac razzle piazza idiot it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Blue Fragrant Home Jew Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: concupiscible theatre actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |