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America is barely even a first world country

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why...
Gay exciting dysfunction locale
  09/25/13
I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you e...
Titillating yellow wagecucks business firm
  09/25/13
and west virginia
Gay exciting dysfunction locale
  09/25/13
it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the impo...
Plum vivacious orchestra pit
  09/25/13
its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market au...
submissive nursing home
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i have devised a final solution to this problem.
Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness
  09/25/13
this. racism actually provides a sort of distraction for ...
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what is the average weight of birdshit america? divorc...
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Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary fo...
white private investor degenerate
  09/25/13
the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commi...
Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness
  09/25/13
societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, per...
Plum vivacious orchestra pit
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3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. den...
Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness
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I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter i...
Plum vivacious orchestra pit
  09/25/13
who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.
Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness
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You could easily make a list of a million reasons why Americ...
fragrant round eye temple
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TIRED OF WINNING
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TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
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superior anglo culture
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maybe sit this one TF out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
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damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily
Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre
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white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure
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white females dont get shot daily either
Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre
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like the one in minnesota
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like portland
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Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has...
Irradiated Mustard Pocket Flask
  05/26/22
most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emerge...
racy filthy cruise ship
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jfc
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Yet somehow the proles I work with all have the latest "...
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too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization
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It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cul...
Slimy mad-dog skullcap
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it's barely a 3rd world country
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The US was never first world anyway these terms are stupid n...
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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:06 AM
Author: Gay exciting dysfunction locale

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/?google_editors_picks=true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109834)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:07 AM
Author: Titillating yellow wagecucks business firm

I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you exclude the browns and blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109838)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:09 AM
Author: Gay exciting dysfunction locale

and west virginia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109844)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:11 AM
Author: Plum vivacious orchestra pit

it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the important thing to remember is that an america without minorities would be a socialist paradise much like sweden because we'd have higher levels of social trust which would help every single institution function better, political shitparties wouldn't be able to exploit racial divisions to pwn us with their corporatist agendas, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109847)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:20 AM
Author: submissive nursing home

its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market authoritarianism. the capitalist narrative is too strong in are country types to allow for socialism, but they give zero fucks about corporatism or really even corruption

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109874)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:23 AM
Author: Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness

i have devised a final solution to this problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109879)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:21 AM
Author: offensive splenetic resort yarmulke

this.

racism actually provides a sort of distraction for Americans. without racism, it'd just be outright ruthless competition with everyone like China.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109996)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:08 PM
Author: lake rigor dragon

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: Irradiated Mustard Pocket Flask

what is the average weight of birdshit america?

divorce rate?

meth addiction?

education levels?

ljl birdshit amerikkka is not doing great u dumb moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575767)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:22 AM
Author: Irradiated Mustard Pocket Flask

Yes US birdshits are so thin and gorgeous with great family values and working hard studying STEM and stuff not snorting meth all day and trying to rape 12yo AZN girls.... Good stuff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#47530791)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: lake rigor dragon

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:14 AM
Author: Transparent embarrassed to the bone casino partner

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109859)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:15 AM
Author: white private investor degenerate

Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary for being a first world country? IMO, it would be better to have NO prisons at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109863)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:17 AM
Author: Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness

the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commit crimes to get put in a sweet living situation that is way better than you can achieve on the outside. the dude who shot up the camp surely live better than debt strapped millenials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109870)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:35 AM
Author: Plum vivacious orchestra pit

societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, personal investment in the public good, etc, can get away with it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109897)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:42 AM
Author: Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness

3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. dentist. shrinks if you need it. better than i have lived since leaving ug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109910)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:57 AM
Author: Plum vivacious orchestra pit

I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter income distributions than the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109923)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 5:18 AM
Author: Nofapping Twinkling Uncleanness

who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109954)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:15 AM
Author: fragrant round eye temple

You could easily make a list of a million reasons why America sucks, but this isn't one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#24109988)



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Date: June 3rd, 2020 1:04 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

TIRED OF WINNING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#40335228)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:58 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575701)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:29 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

superior anglo culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575763)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:13 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:15 AM
Author: free-loading place of business tattoo

maybe sit this one TF out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49177204)



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:18 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49177211)



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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49253914)



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Date: September 11th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

white females dont get shot daily either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49257404)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:09 PM
Author: nyuug

like the one in minnesota

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49570533)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: nyuug

It's absolutely fine.

Date: January 29th, 2017 9:49 PM

Author: lawman8

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508473&forum_id=2#32494554

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49570636)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: nyuug

like portland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49570915)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:24 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:08 AM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:34 PM
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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:18 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:55 PM
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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:49 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Gay Factory

YEAH superior gook culture where teachers stab innocent 8 year olds is much better! DURR DURR

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3zer88yrzo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#49570919)



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Date: September 14th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:57 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: August 17th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: August 21st, 2025 6:46 PM
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:56 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: September 15th, 2025 8:25 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: September 16th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: September 24th, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: October 7th, 2025 10:32 PM
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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:05 PM
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Date: October 15th, 2025 1:43 AM
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:20 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

PRESIDENTIAL SHOOTINGS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#47845205)



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Date: July 16th, 2024 6:43 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre



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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:46 PM
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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
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Date: September 28th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

MUH MICHIGAN MORMONS

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Date: October 2nd, 2025 1:00 AM
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Date: October 15th, 2025 8:48 PM
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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:09 PM
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Date: March 6th, 2023 7:25 PM
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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:19 PM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:21 AM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:27 AM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 8:31 PM
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Date: April 2nd, 2024 9:36 PM
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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: Irradiated Mustard Pocket Flask

Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has TONS of things that dont exist in real first world countries like gun violence or mass obesity but these things also don't exist in most "third world" countries. The US is really unique in how furking shit it is. Truly amazing what a shithole country has been created, Mexico looks like it has a brighter future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575766)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:34 AM
Author: racy filthy cruise ship

most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emergency. even syrian refugees could come up with a few grand to escape when the war started.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575771)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:35 AM
Author: Dead poppy people who are hurt theatre

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575775)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:39 AM
Author: Titillating yellow wagecucks business firm

Yet somehow the proles I work with all have the latest "phone" with every accessory hmmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575777)



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:45 AM
Author: racy filthy cruise ship

too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44575784)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:11 PM
Author: Slimy mad-dog skullcap

It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cultures

You know is doing fine? Proles who live near extended family. Got a kid? Fifty different cousins can come by to take care of the kid when you're sick or have to travel for work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44723225)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:10 PM
Author: Glassy abusive church building hissy fit

it's barely a 3rd world country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44723215)



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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:20 PM
Author: Walnut hospital kitty

Lololol. Oh jeez what is the difference? What policy do the Scandinavians have that we just need to adopt that will make everything here work like everything there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#44723277)



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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:20 PM
Author: iridescent thriller abode



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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:23 AM
Author: Irradiated Mustard Pocket Flask

The US was never first world anyway these terms are stupid now so much of what u birdbrains consider third world does many things better than US... Like wtf are there barely any hobos or mentally deranged or fats in Laos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2,#47530796)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Bespoke Stage Water Buffalo

is the implication that america is third world because we dont have enough Anders Breiviks and we don't reward them with things like Console Gaming for their Acts of Heroism

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