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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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silver 180 stock car
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
mind-boggling tantric boiling water
  12/16/25
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silver 180 stock car
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
mind-boggling tantric boiling water
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
mind-boggling tantric boiling water
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
silver 180 stock car
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
mind-boggling tantric boiling water
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
mind-boggling tantric boiling water
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake
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silver 180 stock car
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mind-boggling tantric boiling water
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how do they get home?
charismatic sound barrier sandwich
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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charismatic sound barrier sandwich
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Titillating mad cow disease persian
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
mind-boggling tantric boiling water
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
diverse ungodly heaven
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
mind-boggling tantric boiling water
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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silver 180 stock car
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i love scholarship
Odious Submissive Skinny Woman
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Passionate Dun Becky Pervert
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silver 180 stock car
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silver 180 stock car
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Histrionic violet national
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: silver 180 stock car



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: silver 180 stock car

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: silver 180 stock car

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: silver 180 stock car



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: charismatic sound barrier sandwich

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: charismatic sound barrier sandwich



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Titillating mad cow disease persian

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: diverse ungodly heaven

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: onyx razzmatazz orchestra pit personal credit line

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: silver 180 stock car



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Odious Submissive Skinny Woman

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Passionate Dun Becky Pervert

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: mind-boggling tantric boiling water



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: concupiscible frisky plaza corn cake

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Histrionic violet national

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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