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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: twinkling old irish cottage
It's funny how hypocritical pro choice catholics are. Personally I dont think that thing in the picture was more of a sentient being than a goldfish.
Catholics though, think all those things are a human beings and that abortion is murder. Pro choice catholics pretend that they think abortion is murder, but should be legal anyway because of a shrew's right to privacy (lol).
Any pro life person who believes abortion is really murder should be firebombing every abortion clinic there is.
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:48 PM Author: twinkling old irish cottage
right. which is why I say pro choice catholics are hypocrites and not real catholics.
another person can believe, like I do, that the thing in the OP is not a living human being with sentience. Or a person can believe that it is a human being, but it is not wrong to kill the human being because of considerations like "the girl didn't feel like it"
I think the latter is a bit more morally suspect, but whatever. I guess people can believe prevent a woman's inconvenience having to host a parasite trumps killing a person. Just not Catholics.
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:57 PM Author: Concupiscible sapphire sandwich
It's more than just an inconvenience, man
That said I think many people *do* find "convenience" abortions morally reprehensible. We assume it must be a very difficult decision for a person to make
Whether a "good" Catholic can do this I don't know
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:36 PM Author: Beady-eyed Striped Hyena Police Squad
LOL at your TTT command of bioethical debates, ape.
I take it you think that it's murder if the pregnant host I mean mom said "I don't feel like being pregnant any more. If the little guy makes it, good for him, I hope he enjoys his adopted family. So go ahead and induce labor and best of luck to him." The point is that the 19 weeks fetus can't survive without the pregnant lady's body, and even at some sort of fake line in the sand where extreme medical interventions can result in viability, it's still a gigantic personal cost for all involved to do that, let alone the social cost. At least arguably, the egalitarian position is that terminations are A-OK until third trimester, depending on how you feel about the right to live a life with a severe disability bc extremely premature babies are basically worse than a coin flip to be severely disabled.
That's leaving aside the more extreme cases like rape, incest, host I mean mom's life in danger.
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:31 PM Author: twinkling old irish cottage
this is not about punitive measures. this is about preventing murder. I bet most people would beat up tsarnaev or adam lanza to prevent them from killing innocent humans.
I'm pretty sure if there was a train track to Auschwitz next door, people would say it is my moral imperative to destroy or sabotage the tracks to delay or hinder the evil perpetrated along them.
Same idea with abortion clinics. Not about killing anyone, just hindering the instruments of murder where you can.
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Date: January 17th, 2014 12:19 PM Author: Jet address
You seem to know not much about Catholicism, so you should STFU.
The distinction between your girlfriend letting you stick your cock in her and her having a pro-choice stance is very thin when it comes to catholic theology.
Both are reprehensible enough to send her to Hell, though both can be forgiven.
It is the Catholic stance not to interfere with anybody else's business too much. Jesus Christ would not have firebombed abortion clinics. Obviously the Pope isn't firebombing them either. Nor is he condemning Pro-choices any more vigorously than he is condemning adulterers.
Catholics aren't radical Muslims. They strive for what they believe is the most compassionate route.
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:27 PM Author: Beady-eyed Striped Hyena Police Squad
What creepy fucks look at this and see a baby?
If he'd made it to 23 weeks in a forced birth state like Texas, assuming he was the exception that survived, his odds of being one or more of: 1) deaf, 2) blind, 3) MR pwn3d, 4) CP pwn3d, 5) autistic, 6) major heart defect pwn3d, 7) major GI defect pwn3d would be far higher than 50/50. Not to mention that he would've racked up an eight figure bill easily while in the hospital getting heroic intervenions on a daily basis for weeks on end. So please continue to force that experience onto fetuses like this one, oh bioethicist. Not to mention the untold expense onto the fetus' parents and the taxpayers, of which the medical costs of the birth are likely a tiny drop in the bucket. All bc the fetus' host I mean mom got in a car accident and is now brain dead. It's really great for your side of the argument.
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:09 PM Author: Beady-eyed Striped Hyena Police Squad
LOL. But but what about the opinions of the 10 oz fetus that can't breathe on its own?!?!
Brain dead people who are taken off life support also feel pain. I assume you also want to keep Terri schaivo et al alive forever and wait for brain transplants/medical science to catch up?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2,#24845970)
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