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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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talented base new version
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/16/25
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talented base new version
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
slippery rough-skinned private investor
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
slippery rough-skinned private investor
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
slippery rough-skinned private investor
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
talented base new version
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
slippery rough-skinned private investor
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
slippery rough-skinned private investor
  12/17/25
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talented base new version
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Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Bronze mildly autistic house weed whacker
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/16/25
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Bronze mildly autistic house weed whacker
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Arousing domesticated center
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Charcoal contagious set patrolman
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Beady-eyed dead area associate
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
supple parlour
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talented base new version
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Insane mint feces
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
multi-colored saffron trailer park
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Beady-eyed dead area associate
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Insane mint feces
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talented base new version
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talented base new version
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
slippery rough-skinned private investor
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Concupiscible tanning salon faggot firefighter
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: talented base new version



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: talented base new version

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: slippery rough-skinned private investor

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: slippery rough-skinned private investor

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: slippery rough-skinned private investor

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: talented base new version

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: slippery rough-skinned private investor

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: slippery rough-skinned private investor

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: talented base new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Bronze mildly autistic house weed whacker

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Bronze mildly autistic house weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Arousing domesticated center

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Charcoal contagious set patrolman

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: supple parlour

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: talented base new version



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Insane mint feces

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: multi-colored saffron trailer park

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Beady-eyed dead area associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516412)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Insane mint feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: talented base new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516681)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: slippery rough-skinned private investor

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Concupiscible tanning salon faggot firefighter

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2,#49515738)