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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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sable trip digit ratio yarmulke
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Bronze hospital
  12/16/25
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sable trip digit ratio yarmulke
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Laughsome ape boistinker
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Bronze hospital
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Laughsome ape boistinker
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Bronze hospital
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Laughsome ape boistinker
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
sable trip digit ratio yarmulke
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Bronze hospital
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Laughsome ape boistinker
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Bronze hospital
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Laughsome ape boistinker
  12/17/25
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sable trip digit ratio yarmulke
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Bronze hospital
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
slate native
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Bronze hospital
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slate native
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Sapphire hairraiser sound barrier bbw
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Bronze hospital
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Misunderstood casino
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Bronze hospital
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
vigorous rusted corner internal respiration
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Bronze hospital
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sable trip digit ratio yarmulke
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
effete provocative shitlib indian lodge
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
bull headed stimulating stage hissy fit
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Bronze hospital
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effete provocative shitlib indian lodge
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sable trip digit ratio yarmulke
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sable trip digit ratio yarmulke
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Laughsome ape boistinker
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
soul-stirring lemon brethren office
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: sable trip digit ratio yarmulke



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Bronze hospital

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: sable trip digit ratio yarmulke

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Laughsome ape boistinker

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Bronze hospital

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Laughsome ape boistinker

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Bronze hospital

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Laughsome ape boistinker

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: sable trip digit ratio yarmulke

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Bronze hospital

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Laughsome ape boistinker

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Bronze hospital

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Laughsome ape boistinker

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: sable trip digit ratio yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Bronze hospital



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: slate native

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Bronze hospital

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: slate native



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Sapphire hairraiser sound barrier bbw

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Bronze hospital

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Misunderstood casino

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Bronze hospital

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: vigorous rusted corner internal respiration

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Bronze hospital



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: sable trip digit ratio yarmulke



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: effete provocative shitlib indian lodge

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: bull headed stimulating stage hissy fit

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Bronze hospital



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: effete provocative shitlib indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: sable trip digit ratio yarmulke



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: sable trip digit ratio yarmulke



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Laughsome ape boistinker

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: soul-stirring lemon brethren office

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515738)