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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Charcoal judgmental halford parlor
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
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  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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stimulating water buffalo hall
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Charcoal judgmental halford parlor

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Motley juggernaut electric furnace

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: supple bbw

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Motley juggernaut electric furnace

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: supple bbw

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Motley juggernaut electric furnace

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Dun vigorous newt

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: adventurous bearded library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Brindle Bateful Fortuitous Meteor Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Hairraiser olive base twinkling uncleanness

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: soul-stirring hell dopamine

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Heady Seedy Codepig

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Dun vigorous newt

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: stimulating water buffalo hall

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Garnet Elastic Band

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Overrated Ocher School Cafeteria Psychic

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49105022)