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why do people think logic games is so improvable?

this doesnt really make sense. there's nothing esoter...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively ge...
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
...
Emerald charismatic black woman home
  03/08/12
also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30
Emerald charismatic black woman home
  03/08/12
wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you m...
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6
lime spectacular degenerate weed whacker
  03/08/12
STFU doobs
Red odious persian
  03/08/12
doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could hav...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarante...
Red odious persian
  03/08/12
should i do this? im not a law student and not looking ...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue ...
Red odious persian
  03/08/12
would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved ...
Red odious persian
  03/08/12
jesus, breh. id probably charge at least 25k in that ca...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 1...
Red odious persian
  03/08/12
fuck. i dont want to go to jail, though.
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although like...
Red odious persian
  03/08/12
because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who origi...
Smoky outnumbered mexican dysfunction
  03/08/12
but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think t...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessar...
Duck-like area stock car
  03/08/12
wheres the "technique" or "framework" th...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolicall...
Duck-like area stock car
  03/08/12
havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manip...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever...
Duck-like area stock car
  03/08/12
because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "a...
fighting office mad cow disease
  03/08/12
what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
lacking a logical cast of mind
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
in which case youre fucked anyway, right? im not doubti...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle o...
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
but theres no evidence im wrong. the lsats are pretty s...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn...
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
no, i havent seen evidence of this.
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.
Dashing Feces
  03/08/12
i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just s...
fighting office mad cow disease
  03/08/12
because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG ...
Trip ebony rigor selfie
  03/08/12
i guess this is what i kind of doubt
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
it's a fact though
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
yeah I imagine they don't advertise it
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placeb...
Trip ebony rigor selfie
  03/08/12
i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise t...
clear marvelous ceo
  03/08/12
lol every1 is just lieing faggot.
Dashing Feces
  03/08/12
i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.
fighting office mad cow disease
  03/08/12
I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
yes
fighting office mad cow disease
  03/08/12
The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I...
Trip ebony rigor selfie
  03/08/12
...
light contagious idea he suggested
  03/08/12
def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE
nyuug
  02/19/26
dumbing down tests is superior anglo culture bro
nyuug
  02/23/26
What law school did you go to, big guy?
Norwoody Allen
  02/23/26
u seem pretty mad@ america dumbing down literally every stan...
nyuug
  02/23/26
Nonresponsive, champ
Norwoody Allen
  02/23/26
MUH DUMBED DOWN LSAT
nyuug
  02/24/26


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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

this doesnt really make sense.

there's nothing esoteric about a logic game. the only difficulty is the time limit. what techniques are supposed to improve this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20159725)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively get what a contrapositive is and learning it from an lsat logic games "bible"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20159728)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:19 PM
Author: Emerald charismatic black woman home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20159743)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Emerald charismatic black woman home

also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20159746)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:22 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160373)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you might not realize that diagramming's more efficient. I actually didn't diagram, just got one wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160388)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: lime spectacular degenerate weed whacker

http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20159729)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Red odious persian

STFU doobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20159753)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could have me take the lsat for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160380)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:24 PM
Author: Red odious persian

what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarantee? it would be awesome as fukkkk if i could take the LSAT for people. i think i could get $5,000 per administration if there was a good way to hook up with clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160398)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

should i do this?

im not a law student and not looking to ever be admitted to the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160425)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Red odious persian

breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue isn't really whether you can get admitted to a bar, but whether they will throw your ass in motherfucking jail if you get caught.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160443)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160449)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: Red odious persian

you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved if you were crossing state lines to do it. i'd say there's a good chance they do give you some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160460)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

jesus, breh.

id probably charge at least 25k in that case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160484)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:33 PM
Author: Red odious persian

too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 172.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160509)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

fuck.

i dont want to go to jail, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160538)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:37 PM
Author: Red odious persian

probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although likelihood of getting caught would be low if you did it just a couple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160556)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: Smoky outnumbered mexican dysfunction

because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who originally sucked at the section can generally learn these setups, how to deal with them, and profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160389)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think the time limit would fuck you anyway.

its not like theres a linear algebra section on the lsat. i can see why studying would make a big difference there, but logic games are pretty intuitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160413)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160430)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: Duck-like area stock car

because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessary to solve all logic games and practice applying them quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160416)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

wheres the "technique" or "framework" thats not really obvious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160433)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: Duck-like area stock car

unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolically represent the games on paper and manipulate those symbols towards the correct solution without going down a wrong path, practice is the only way you'll learn to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160468)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manipulation/computation since 6th grade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160505)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Duck-like area stock car

i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever seen it and i have a reasonably strong math background. my scores on games the first few times i tried them were abysmal. after practice and seeing some hints and techniques for attacking them, my scores were nearly perfect.

i think the real problem is that games require a minimal level of reading comprehension and mapping the ideas to symbols, then manipulating those symbols. this is different from writing essays or doing word problems in math. i guess it's closest to writing mathematical proofs but requires lower level but quicker logical reasoning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160572)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: fighting office mad cow disease

because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "apartment buildings" and "Radio Station Disc Jockeys", etc., the problems are easier to deal with in terms of logical relationships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160431)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160440)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

lacking a logical cast of mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160459)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

in which case youre fucked anyway, right?

im not doubting that techniques are useful to solve logic games. im doubting the kind of person who cant figure out these techniques on their own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160474)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle of you rephrasing your point 50 different ways and me/other ppl saying you're wrong so many times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160497)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

but theres no evidence im wrong.

the lsats are pretty similar. and people arent doing much better despite the increase in tutoring/practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160530)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn't gotten harder over the past 15 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160550)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:42 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

no, i havent seen evidence of this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160622)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Dashing Feces

all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160567)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: fighting office mad cow disease

i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just seeing the format of the problems ahead of time can help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160489)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Trip ebony rigor selfie

because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG Bible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160439)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

i guess this is what i kind of doubt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160446)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

it's a fact though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160454)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160462)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

yeah I imagine they don't advertise it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160472)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: Trip ebony rigor selfie

do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placebo effect or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160490)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: clear marvelous ceo

i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise the test wouldnt be breaking people over the curve so easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160520)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: Dashing Feces

lol every1 is just lieing faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160547)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: fighting office mad cow disease

i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160568)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested

I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160576)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:39 PM
Author: fighting office mad cow disease

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160588)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:40 PM
Author: Trip ebony rigor selfie

The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I gained like 11 points from my diag, almost all of it on games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160596)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:41 PM
Author: light contagious idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#20160600)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: nyuug

def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#49681283)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:34 PM
Author: nyuug

dumbing down tests is superior anglo culture bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#49690069)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:01 PM
Author: Norwoody Allen

What law school did you go to, big guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#49690119)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:26 PM
Author: nyuug

u seem pretty mad@ america dumbing down literally every standardized test bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#49690191)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Norwoody Allen

Nonresponsive, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#49690340)



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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:28 PM
Author: nyuug

MUH DUMBED DOWN LSAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2:#49692825)