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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Bistre indecent chad Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: Charcoal wild kitchen juggernaut “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Transparent milk regret As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Bull headed blue multi-billionaire pervert they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252972) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: Echoes of Wisdom ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#49178217) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: flirting giraffe they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: flirting giraffe 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: fragrant amber new version Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: maroon sound barrier national How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: mind-boggling macaca point It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Bull headed blue multi-billionaire pervert they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253002) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Bistre indecent chad is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43231447) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: charismatic meetinghouse headpube omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Bistre indecent chad For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: aromatic sapphire piazza ape yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: exhilarant messiness To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: Vivacious Degenerate Dragon I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: Beady-eyed arrogant theater stage yarmulke holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Bistre indecent chad or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: nofapping mewling temple Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Bistre indecent chad it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: nofapping mewling temple That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: Bistre indecent chad i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Sticky Fear-inspiring Stain They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: Vivacious Degenerate Dragon No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: Sticky Fear-inspiring Stain Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM Author: buck-toothed church mad-dog skullcap Better partnership odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: Sticky Fear-inspiring Stain That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: buck-toothed church mad-dog skullcap Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41936043) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: fuchsia soggy abode how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41949811) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Brindle Curious Stage that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43231452) |
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