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Best exit option for burned out solo lawmo?

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't w...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
Sad
Heady useless lodge
  01/09/23
Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn...
dashing azure alpha
  01/09/23
Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely. Sick of...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more a...
dashing azure alpha
  01/09/23
Most important part of being a solo is doing constant busine...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision ...
dashing azure alpha
  01/09/23
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grizzly hairraiser point incel
  01/10/23
Suck dick, maybe? At your age, you probably won't be abl...
Ultramarine Step-uncle's House
  01/09/23
Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find ma...
Galvanic Opaque Clown Death Wish
  01/09/23
lol need to make 200k
Onyx boistinker state
  01/09/23
I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be h...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
what figure wouldn't make you lol
buff provocative partner haunted graveyard
  01/09/23
not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring...
Onyx boistinker state
  01/09/23
I'm not opposed to sales at all. How hard is it to break...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
what clique are you?
Indecent elite pit
  01/10/23
Scumbag TBH
yellow motley shrine
  01/11/23
I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make e...
snowy set hissy fit
  01/09/23
Yup
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted ...
Amethyst Pungent Mother
  01/09/23
feel like i wrote your post. it bewilders me that, someho...
Onyx boistinker state
  01/09/23
I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that t...
snowy set hissy fit
  01/09/23
That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every...
grizzly hairraiser point incel
  01/10/23
You are both describing my life, too. Over the holidays I...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
Literally just had this happen.
grizzly hairraiser point incel
  01/10/23
...
grizzly hairraiser point incel
  01/10/23
Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to li...
grizzly hairraiser point incel
  01/10/23
...
sienna free-loading public bath chad
  01/10/23
https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp...
harsh slate place of business
  01/09/23
You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former...
pontificating indirect expression messiness
  01/09/23
$200k is not that much any more.
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.
pontificating indirect expression messiness
  01/09/23
You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpref...
massive mexican
  01/10/23
age / nw?
aquamarine toaster love of her life
  01/09/23
window
Salmon tanning salon deer antler
  01/09/23
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Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/10/23
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Smoky Field Son Of Senegal
  01/10/23
I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ev...
Poppy multi-colored rigpig
  01/09/23
It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-h...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
Work the front desk at a hotel
Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/09/23
My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show an...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?
Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/09/23
JD opens a lot of doors
Onyx boistinker state
  01/09/23
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Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/09/23
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yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
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jet magical den
  01/09/23
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lascivious crusty personal credit line
  01/09/23
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Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/09/23
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Translucent Internet-worthy Goyim
  01/09/23
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dull electric immigrant abode
  01/09/23
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sienna free-loading public bath chad
  01/10/23
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cannon
  09/01/25
I think you have a good thing going and should probably appr...
Poppy multi-colored rigpig
  01/09/23
You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wa...
yellow motley shrine
  01/09/23
...
Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/09/23
All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to l...
Poppy multi-colored rigpig
  01/09/23
weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but...
sapphire hairless tattoo range
  01/09/23
It's all $hit :)?
Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/09/23
It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.
contagious frisky stead gunner
  01/09/23
yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I beco...
sapphire hairless tattoo range
  01/09/23
I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you...
Milky Hideous Circlehead International Law Enforcement Agency
  01/09/23
-No boss -No fake emergencies created by your own team ...
contagious frisky stead gunner
  01/09/23
So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the a...
sapphire hairless tattoo range
  01/09/23
Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance ...
contagious frisky stead gunner
  01/09/23
How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical...
sapphire hairless tattoo range
  01/09/23
I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and ...
contagious frisky stead gunner
  01/09/23
can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from lit...
vigorous macaca location
  01/09/23
Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventua...
contagious frisky stead gunner
  01/10/23
Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doin...
vigorous macaca location
  01/10/23
Can I take you out to lunch sometime?
Milky Hideous Circlehead International Law Enforcement Agency
  01/09/23
Sure if you're in LA
contagious frisky stead gunner
  01/10/23
What floor is your office on?
Rebellious Kitchen Striped Hyena
  01/09/23
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Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/09/23
cr. pull a Garry Hoy.
Trip people who are hurt rehab
  01/09/23
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Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life
  01/10/23
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lascivious crusty personal credit line
  01/09/23
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grizzly hairraiser point incel
  01/10/23
become a Director at F100
Awkward Gold Foreskin
  01/09/23
Solo transactional work instead?
flesh irradiated hominid
  01/09/23
Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion
fragrant home
  01/09/23
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The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship
  09/01/25
I make $75k
Stirring Milk
  01/09/23
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Lake startled parlor
  01/10/23
this is a big improvement brother ur doing great
sienna free-loading public bath chad
  01/10/23
it's a big improvement over delivering cookies, but at this ...
Stirring Milk
  01/10/23
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sapphire hairless tattoo range
  01/11/23
Get into construction. You could make manager in 2 years eas...
balding white gaping windowlicker
  01/09/23
Poast on xo
maroon affirmative action
  01/09/23
Move to a farm and raise ducks
Razzle-dazzle Flickering School Cafeteria
  01/09/23
Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2...
Cerebral Nowag
  01/09/23
Sex with men for money.
magenta telephone
  01/09/23
antidepressants
arrogant crimson orchestra pit
  01/10/23
Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems s...
Aphrodisiac Cuckoldry
  01/10/23
I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I app...
yellow motley shrine
  01/11/23
u need to get into an area with less demadning/ more prole c...
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  01/11/23
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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:55 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't want to go back to a firm or in-house (even if it was an option).

Need to make at least $200k per year. Any options or am I fucked for life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45764995)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: Heady useless lodge

Sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45764999)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: dashing azure alpha

Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn to code maybe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765001)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely.

Sick of arguing and being detail oriented and sitting alone in a room for hours reading documents. Coding seems like the same thing minus arguing, so I don't think it's for me.

I want to get out of the office and talk to people and be social again. Some kind of business development maybe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765042)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:08 PM
Author: dashing azure alpha

Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more are generally not offered to burned out self-employed litigators grasping for a career change.

Remove the salary requirement and you might have something to work with here (that could be a path to $200K or better in idk 5 years?)

But if you won’t consider anything less, better fall back in love with litigating and fast. I meant you’ve ruled out everything that’s an actual possibility for you in my earlier post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765070)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

Most important part of being a solo is doing constant business development so it's not a completely unrelated skillset.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765098)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: dashing azure alpha

I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision maker hiring for a $200K+ jerb of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765110)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:16 AM
Author: grizzly hairraiser point incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767512)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: Ultramarine Step-uncle's House

Suck dick, maybe?

At your age, you probably won't be able to demand depending on where you live.

There is nothing else you can do with your age & skillset that commands $200k a year.

Either lower your expectations or learn to deepthroat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765029)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:02 PM
Author: Galvanic Opaque Clown Death Wish

Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find manageable?

How did you get the clients and how much do you bill them at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765038)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: Onyx boistinker state

lol need to make 200k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765041)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be honest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765047)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: buff provocative partner haunted graveyard

what figure wouldn't make you lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765049)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: Onyx boistinker state

not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring zero skills or experience into a 200k+ job that is not SALES

think like the boss. "Hey let me give you 250,000 guaranteed a year, out of our profits, to do....." WHAT? How are you going to earn him $350k+ that year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765097)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

I'm not opposed to sales at all.

How hard is it to break into a decent PETERMAN APPROVED sales job, though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765143)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:57 AM
Author: Indecent elite pit

what clique are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767551)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: yellow motley shrine

Scumbag TBH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45773259)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: snowy set hissy fit

I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make enough money to someday stop working, or collect on that disability or death insurance policy. I don't see how there's any other options here.

It's not all that depressing, my firm is doing well, realistically I can keep this up for about another 15 or so years that should probably do it. It is an awful grind though and I wish I didn't have to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765063)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

Yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765105)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:45 PM
Author: Amethyst Pungent Mother

my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted problems and drama of absolute proles (even rich ones). Even if its lucrative I do not think I can keep this up for 15-20 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765313)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:05 PM
Author: Onyx boistinker state

feel like i wrote your post.

it bewilders me that, somehow, I ended up with the job of being the go-to guy for retard proles in absolute hair-on-fire crises.

Thats the entirety of my job. Shit exploding in your life and youre manic about it? Call Im Done Here!

How on earth did this happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765412)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:03 PM
Author: snowy set hissy fit

I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that the only way out is to be successful and win your way out. CSLG does the same thing we do and you don't hear him complaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765613)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:47 AM
Author: grizzly hairraiser point incel

That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every aspect of the case beyond intake (more specifically: signing the client) & some negotiations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767538)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:05 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

You are both describing my life, too.

Over the holidays I had a difficult former client (small business) get a demand letter for some stupid shit they did and they just told the plaintiff's attorney to "send it to quotemo, he's my attorney" even though I'm not and have no interest in taking this case. Of course the plaintiff's attorney started hounding me while I wasted time reminding the client that I'm not their attorney for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765620)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:49 AM
Author: grizzly hairraiser point incel

Literally just had this happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767540)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:45 AM
Author: grizzly hairraiser point incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767536)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:18 AM
Author: grizzly hairraiser point incel

Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to literally turn it off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767514)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:34 AM
Author: sienna free-loading public bath chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45768045)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:08 PM
Author: harsh slate place of business

https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp?R_ID=5177241&

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766741)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:09 PM
Author: pontificating indirect expression messiness

You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former lawyer $200k to not practice law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765077)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:11 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

$200k is not that much any more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765102)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:23 PM
Author: pontificating indirect expression messiness

It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765201)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:23 AM
Author: massive mexican

You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpreferred bs or becoming a project manager. It's all bad tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767405)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: aquamarine toaster love of her life

age / nw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765109)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: Salmon tanning salon deer antler

window

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765113)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:36 AM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45768055)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:50 PM
Author: Smoky Field Son Of Senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45771898)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:31 PM
Author: Poppy multi-colored rigpig

I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ever made, like a manna from heaven?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765245)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:33 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-house. I just want to do something else with my life now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765252)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:34 PM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life

Work the front desk at a hotel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765254)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show and it really makes me want to be a doorman at a luxury building, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765260)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life

Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765262)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: Onyx boistinker state

JD opens a lot of doors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765268)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765272)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:38 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765273)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: jet magical den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765310)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: lascivious crusty personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765315)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:04 PM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765403)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:20 PM
Author: Translucent Internet-worthy Goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765479)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:51 PM
Author: dull electric immigrant abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766309)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:37 AM
Author: sienna free-loading public bath chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45768058)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: cannon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#49228215)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:36 PM
Author: Poppy multi-colored rigpig

I think you have a good thing going and should probably appreciate it. Why not work a little less and be social outside of work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765263)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:39 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine

You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wasted years and years of my life doing a job that has been so unsatisfying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765278)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:40 PM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765285)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:42 PM
Author: Poppy multi-colored rigpig

All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to live our UMC life with a shit job than to be poor.

What you really ought to do instead of scrambling for some entry level sales job is to invest in a business and find people to run it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765297)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:41 PM
Author: sapphire hairless tattoo range

weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but I guess the grass is not really greener

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765287)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:43 PM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life

It's all $hit :)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765303)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: contagious frisky stead gunner

It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765311)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:53 PM
Author: sapphire hairless tattoo range

yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I become a successful solo, ill just get bored of lawshit anyways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765341)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:12 PM
Author: Milky Hideous Circlehead International Law Enforcement Agency

I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you are a CSLG type who is literally making millions.

With or without a boss you have the stress of litigation and demands of servicing clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765442)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:57 PM
Author: contagious frisky stead gunner

-No boss

-No fake emergencies created by your own team

-Ability to decline cases you know will be more stress than they're worth

-You don't have to litigate. I was a litmo and got out of it. Last year I billed ~1000 hours drafting contracts and reviewing the kind of stuff I've reviewed hundreds of times before and took home $350k after expenses. Beats the shit out of being at a firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766338)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:06 PM
Author: sapphire hairless tattoo range

So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the area after doing lit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766364)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:20 PM
Author: contagious frisky stead gunner

Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance or whatever it's called are very helpful. For stuff I didn't think I could competently figure out at first, I hired contract attorneys and eventually learned how to do what they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766453)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:21 PM
Author: sapphire hairless tattoo range

How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766464)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:59 PM
Author: contagious frisky stead gunner

I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and getting speaking engagements. All my clients come through that.

I think Practical law is like $350/mo for solos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766700)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:07 PM
Author: vigorous macaca location

can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from litigation to a contracts drafting expert as a solo with 'social media presence.' like explain more details of how this works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766740)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:10 AM
Author: contagious frisky stead gunner

Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventually.

Year 1: Still doing lit - a few very small referrals from a friend to get me started, grinding out a year of litigating at ~$250/hr rate. Start writing articles about the area of compliance/consulting/tranny stuff I want to focus on. Get invited to speak at a conference related to that area. Start social media pages. Don't make much money.

Year 2: Still about 80% lit, one solid referral from old firm kept me afloat, but they were psychotic to work for. Rate up to $300. Have a few transactional clients that I use a contract attorney to do all the heavy lifting for. Learning the ropes so to speak. Focus on posting daily social media content related to that practice area. Get lucky that stuff gets reshared by a few big accounts. Net $320k.

Year 3: Maybe about 50% lit now. I understand how to do the "greatest hits" contracts in my practice area that I see over and over again. Use contract attorneys for stuff I don't feel like I can competently figure out. Get better at figuring out what social content gets more reach and engagement. Net $415k thanks to a few lit cases going the right way.

Year 4: Wrap up final lit case. Social/online presence continues to grow and keeps the pipeline full. Rate at $500. Landed some big clients that keep me busy every month. Refer everything lit-related out. Net $350k.

This year: Off to a good start, made $15k so far since Jan 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767375)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 3:38 PM
Author: vigorous macaca location

Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doing something very similar as I just left biglaw as a litigator too and getting into an area now as a solo that i previously had little interaction with

would love to know for the social media stuff if you have any resources that you found really great in helping you out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45770218)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: Milky Hideous Circlehead International Law Enforcement Agency

Can I take you out to lunch sometime?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766712)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:13 AM
Author: contagious frisky stead gunner

Sure if you're in LA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767384)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: Rebellious Kitchen Striped Hyena

What floor is your office on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765318)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:47 PM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765321)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:03 PM
Author: Trip people who are hurt rehab

cr.

pull a Garry Hoy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765399)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:48 AM
Author: Honey-headed Cruise Ship Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767463)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:09 PM
Author: lascivious crusty personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765427)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:53 AM
Author: grizzly hairraiser point incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767547)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:08 PM
Author: Awkward Gold Foreskin

become a Director at F100

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45765635)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:14 PM
Author: flesh irradiated hominid

Solo transactional work instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766415)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: fragrant home

Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766443)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#49228270)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:23 PM
Author: Stirring Milk

I make $75k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766471)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:12 AM
Author: Lake startled parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767376)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:38 AM
Author: sienna free-loading public bath chad

this is a big improvement brother

ur doing great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45768061)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:44 PM
Author: Stirring Milk

it's a big improvement over delivering cookies, but at this rate I"ll be making 125k when I retire (65k in 2022 dollars)

If it weren't for ethereum I'd be living in a studio apartment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45771881)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 2:59 PM
Author: sapphire hairless tattoo range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45774692)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:27 PM
Author: balding white gaping windowlicker

Get into construction. You could make manager in 2 years easy, and if you work your ass off, you could make low 100s until then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766483)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: maroon affirmative action

Poast on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766717)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:04 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Flickering School Cafeteria

Move to a farm and raise ducks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766730)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:10 PM
Author: Cerebral Nowag

Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2-3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45766750)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 11:26 PM
Author: magenta telephone

Sex with men for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45767195)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:52 PM
Author: arrogant crimson orchestra pit

antidepressants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45771907)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:57 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Cuckoldry

Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems so they can be the business owner and have other grunts deal with the hair-on-fire clients?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45771924)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: yellow motley shrine

I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I appreciate that you hired an associate but the work product isn't at the same level and we need you to be the one who works with us."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45773258)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 11:08 AM
Author: sapphire hairless tattoo range

u need to get into an area with less demadning/ more prole clients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45773519)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 12:41 PM
Author: yellow motley shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2:#45773993)