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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: greedy field Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: Titillating Henna Gaming Laptop “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: razzle tan institution love of her life As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: Stirring garnet shitlib brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253586) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM Author: Stirring garnet shitlib brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43955228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Heady pearly nursing home idea he suggested they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252972) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: Beady-eyed station oh we got a legal expert here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43231415) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: greedy field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43955203) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: Martin Skhreli ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#49178217) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Slimy demanding market giraffe they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: Stirring garnet shitlib brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253066) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Ocher mad-dog skullcap school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253623) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Slimy demanding market giraffe 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Gold stimulating marketing idea goes a long way in shaker heights (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252989) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Idiotic chrome state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253024) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Stirring garnet shitlib brunch Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: glittery maize crackhouse dragon Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: Citrine point milk How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Concupiscible indecent mood piazza It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Heady pearly nursing home idea he suggested they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253002) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Slimy demanding market giraffe sounds 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253004) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: greedy field is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43231447) |
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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: greedy field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#48564541) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Comical green rigpig omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: greedy field For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: mischievous mad cow disease p depressing news going into the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253537) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: greedy field Eat my dick nigger lover (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253786) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: mischievous mad cow disease your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36254215) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: greedy field Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36254517) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: greedy field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36256523) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: greedy field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36743851) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: swollen slap-happy corner haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36254823) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Vivacious abusive liquid oxygen yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Topaz Hell To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: greedy field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933386) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: greedy field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: Pale Stage Useless Brakes I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: Irate puppy sex offender holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: greedy field or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: supple frozen casino Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: greedy field it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: supple frozen casino That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: greedy field i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Arousing Site Digit Ratio They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: Pale Stage Useless Brakes No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: Arousing Site Digit Ratio Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: Arousing Site Digit Ratio That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: lavender motley lay Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41936043) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: razzle-dazzle orchid plaza therapy how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41949811) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Lascivious duck-like main people that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43231452) |
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