Why does RSF deny being Jewish?
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Date: May 28th, 2025 12:56 PM Author: Fragrant temple generalized bond
Without weighing in on RSF's Judaism, there's no benefit to being Jewish unless you live in Israel or some other Jewish community. I think most people who live secular lives and can plausibly deny being Jewish would do so. It's rare people will hear that you are Jewish and think it's a positive thing.
I have no choice, being 100% Jewish and having a hook nose. My kids though may never identify as Jewish since we aren't religious and they have a totally different ethnicity to which they belong equally.
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Date: May 28th, 2025 1:38 PM Author: stirring new version
well yes, some blacks are very smart. but so what? any large group will have outliers.
or are you denying that we can characterize group tendencies?
to summarize the discussion so far:
a: "jews are ashamed"
b: "imagine pollacks feeling this way"
c: "well, pollacks don't get blamed"
b: "there's a reason for that"
c: "not all jews"
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Date: May 28th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: Big toaster
not denying that.
i don't think bloodacre is ashamed. if he was he wouldn't be so open about his jewish heritage on an anonymous message bort. he's saying that for many jews it can be disadvantageous, and those won't identify as jews.
when blacks were persecuted white-passing blacks would hide their black heritage. now that being black is an advantage you've got dolezals.
when gays were persecuted most were closeted. now that it's an advantage tons of heteros claim to be gay or bi.
i don't think most in those groups were ashamed of their heritage. they just didn't put it on display when it would cause more harm than good. i doubt bloodacre's kids will be ashamed of their jewish heritage, but if jews are disfavored of course they will be more likely to hide their heritage. this is what happens when any group is disfavored by society.
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Date: May 28th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: Big toaster
a: "jews that can pass as goys often do because for many there are negative consequences for having jewish heritage"
b: "imagine pollacks feeling this way"
c: "there's no negative consequences for being polish"
b: "jews deserve those consequences"
c: "not all jews"
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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:08 PM Author: Big toaster
this post. i'm not intentionally mischaracterizing your words. if you meant something different then just tell me what your point was instead of flatly accusing me of mischaracterization.
Date: May 28th, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: sam hyde inseminating boner police's mouth via gjr
did brzezinski use his position in the us government to drag us into wars against poland's enemies?
jews enjoyed every conceivable advantage in america and still couldn't help themselves.
if there's been a change in perception of jews in the public, it's only fairly recent:
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2023/03/15/americans-feel-more-positive-than-negative-about-jews-mainline-protestants-catholics/
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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:29 PM Author: stirring new version
justifiable in terms of fearing for personal safety. not sure what you're going on about.
if the sentiment is turning against jews, it's because of jewish group behavior. america's had favorable opinions of jews for decades.
are you going to stop reasoning like a woman?
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Date: May 28th, 2025 3:01 PM Author: stirring new version
this is the part of the post you're asking about:
"did brzezinski use his position in the us government to drag us into wars against poland's enemies?
jews enjoyed every conceivable advantage in america and still couldn't help themselves."
which part of this post seems prescriptive to you? is it that i speak of jews as a group [in terms of both action and punishment], i.e. "jews as a group abused america's largesse so all jews deserve to be punished"? is that what you're inferring?
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Date: May 28th, 2025 3:16 PM Author: Big toaster
none of that matters in the context of why jews would hide their heritage compared to poles. i simply used "jews deserve those consequences" as shorthand, obviously, to summarize. whether you are describing the state of things or whether you personally think it should be the case for all jews as a class has not bearing on our argument.
here, i'll substitute the phrase you used, it's the same thing in the context of our discussion:
a: "jews that can pass as goys often do because for many there are negative consequences for having jewish heritage"
b: "imagine pollacks feeling this way"
c: "well, pollacks don't get blamed"
b: "there's a reason for that"
whether jews deserve a negative reputation, and however severe that negative reputation is, doesn't matter. my point from the outset is that people will hide their heritage when it's disfavored by society.
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Date: May 28th, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Big toaster
see germans, blacks above.
also it's a matter of degree and how much they "are" that thing. a secular jew with no ties to judiasm might actually feel they arent that thing (e.g. rsf, taking him at his word). and hiding could be anything from not broadcasting it to actively denying it.
in my irish example, im proud enough that I would never affirmatively deny my heritage. but im not flying the Irish flag either.
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Date: May 28th, 2025 4:56 PM Author: stirring new version
> see germans, blacks above.
i already said i'm talking about today. no one is lynching or detaining jews here.
> in my irish example, im proud enough that I would never affirmatively deny my heritage.
that's the difference between you, a goy, and rsf, a jew
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